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12/19/09, 10:32 AM
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We use kerosene, though our lamps will also burn lard.
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12/19/09, 10:38 AM
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how are you heating the lard to liquid ?
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12/19/09, 11:30 AM
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Check near the candles as others have suggested in WM. They also have replacement wicks
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12/19/09, 11:38 AM
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Same as when your prepping WVO to run in your truck; warm to a liquid, strain it if it needs to be strained again, then mix in just enough veggie oil to keep it a liquid when it cools.
We have used kerosene, you can use much less kerosene to keep the mixture liquid when it cools, as compared to veggie oil.
We end up doing trial and error a couple times to get each batch 'right'. It seems that there is no one ratio that is perfect in all cases.
Rendered poultry lard is much easier to keep liquid than is pork lard, and sometimes the gunk-lard we get from restaurants may take a lot of cutting to finally get it to stay liquid.
We have not done anything different for our petromax lamp fuel, then what we do for our son's truck fuel.
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12/19/09, 12:24 PM
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When all else fails mineral spirits works very well and there is no smell. All hard ware stores carry it. Sam
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12/19/09, 02:16 PM
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Carbon Monoxide is a non issue here... we always leave a bathroom and living room window cracked, even on the coldest nights. Kitchen door is always open. Upstairs bedroom windows are always up... even when it's freezing outside... we like it cold when we sleep... 
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12/19/09, 02:29 PM
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Just a comment of carbon monoxide. Burning natural gas or propane in you oven/range/furnace can also create carbon monoxide, but for some reason no one seems to get freaked out by that.
We also burn kerosene in out Aladdin lamps and BriteLyt petromax lantern. The Petromax can also burn Coleman fuel, gasoline, diesel, and biofuels.
Don't wait for storms to stock up on your preparedness needs.
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Charcoal lighter fluid also works well in oil lamps and it stores pretty well. Easy to find just about anywhere. Very rare to find kerosene in bulk around in my area. I know one gas station in Van Buran and thats it. Everybody else tries to sell it prepackaged in 5 gallon cans for a really horrible price.
Thing is last winter during mother of all ice storms, I was disappointed both in light output and fuel consumption in my oil lamp. If you work it out, a 5hp engine running around 2200rpm (much quieter at that speed and more fuel thrifty and longer lasting) driving a car alternator combined with a cheap inverter can power fluorescent light giving vastly more light with simular amount fuel to two oil lamps and cheaper fuel even with paying road tax on it.
Works for me, my old eyes arent up to reading by oil lamp. And running the 5hp engine also enough to not only give me plenty light but keep laptop charged. Probably even more, never experimented to see the limits. Probably need battery bank to make running my little freezer economical this way.
Oil lamps are fine for short power outage or if you are young with good eyes, just flat out bother otherwise.
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12/19/09, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HermitJohn
Charcoal lighter fluid also works well in oil lamps and it stores pretty well. Easy to find just about anywhere. Very rare to find kerosene in bulk around in my area. I know one gas station in Van Buran and thats it. Everybody else tries to sell it prepackaged in 5 gallon cans for a really horrible price.
Thing is last winter during mother of all ice storms, I was disappointed both in light output and fuel consumption in my oil lamp. If you work it out, a 5hp engine running around 2200rpm (much quieter at that speed and more fuel thrifty and longer lasting) driving a car alternator combined with a cheap inverter can power fluorescent light giving vastly more light with simular amount fuel to two oil lamps and cheaper fuel even with paying road tax on it.
Works for me, my old eyes arent up to reading by oil lamp. And running the 5hp engine also enough to not only give me plenty light but keep laptop charged. Probably even more, never experimented to see the limits. Probably need battery bank to make running my little freezer economical this way.
Oil lamps are fine for short power outage or if you are young with good eyes, just flat out bother otherwise.
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A Petromax puts out 500CP.
It will light up the entire room and everyone in the room will be able to read from the light.
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12/19/09, 02:59 PM
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One of my lamps says kerosene lamp the other says oil lamp on the outside of them. Now they are quite old, dating from the 1920's and 30's. Can I still use either oil or kerosene in either one of them? Thanks.
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12/19/09, 04:00 PM
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Since the nearest Wally World is located about 200 miles round trip, I don't know about lamp oil there. I get my lamp oil at the local Ace Hardware store.. Kerosene is harder to find in this area..
Otherwise since I make my own candles, I will not be sitting here in the dark when the electric power goes out..
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12/19/09, 05:51 PM
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http://www.endtimesreport.com/lighting.html
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All of the kerosene lamps and lanterns (except the Petromax) mentioned above use wicks and burners designed in the 19th Century for burning coal oil -- hence they are called "oil lamps." Kerosene (1K clear) will burn just fine in FLAT WICK kerosene lamps and lanterns. Circular wick lamps such as the Kosmos #14 and #15 burners (metal fount) and Victorian lamps by Miller, Bradley and Hubbard (B & H) and Plume and Atwood (P & A) burn far brighter, cleaner and nicer with "Paint Thinner - Low Odor Mineral Spirits." Used in flat wick lamps and lanterns, "Low Odor Mineral Spirits" burns so cleanly you seldom even have to trim the wicks, and as of 6.18.09 it costs $6.98 per gallon at my local True Value Hardware store. (At left is one of my B & H "Trophy" lamps. The shade alone is 14" wide.) Note: these are LAMPS, NOT LANTERNS! Lanterns burn kerosene.
Perhaps one of the biggest jokes in the world is "Liquid Paraffin Lamp Oil," priced at about $20.00 per gallon. As few people these days have any familiarity with the history of lamps, their design, or their fuel, they actually buy "Liquid Paraffin Lamp Oil" to burn in kerosene lamps. The lamps were all basically designed before 1890 to burn coal oil, so they are still called "oil lamps" even though coal oil was replaced by kerosene well over 125 years ago. But some marketing genius realized that kerosene is called "paraffin" in England, but by that name is a solid waxy substance in the US, so why not call clear kerosene "Liquid Paraffin Lamp Oil" and fleece the unwary? It worked! I've seen people buying "Liquid Paraffin Lamp Oil" for $19.95 a gallon!!! Spending real money to ruin a perfectly good lamp.
If you absolutely must have scented lamp oil, you can easily make your own for pennies per gallon.
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Can you use olive oil or does the lamp have to be designed for that?
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President Coolidge was sworn in by his father (a justice of the peace) under the light of a kerosene lamp.
Kerosene $3.99/gal. here at the filling station pump.
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I was trying to stock up a few months ago on lamp oil, (WAL MART)one week(no money) they had the shelves full, the next week payday they had none, and salesperson says "we dont carry that anymore" I say "you had full shelves last week. anyway, 2 weeks later the shelves were full again. I however stocked up from Ace hardware, got more for my money there too. Last year during the ice strom I had to pay 25.00 for an 11.00 bottle. Not doing that again, got 5 bottles in preps
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Don't wait for storms to stock up on your preparedness needs.
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Why not then you will get the largest price on everything. You don't want the store going broke do you? 
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If you don't mind a bit of smoke and more frequent wick and chimney cleaning, you can burn diesel oil in them. We used to get what I think I remember was Diesel #1 from a gas station. It was real similar to kerosene, wouldn't have been surprised if it was actually the same stuff.
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12/20/09, 05:33 AM
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I use kerosene myself. Cheaper than lamp oil plus it is readily available.
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exaclty, i keep a 55 gal drum of kero here and if i don't use it in 5 yrs, I pump it in the heating oil tank and refil the drum with fresh kero.
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12/20/09, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by hotzcatz
If you don't mind a bit of smoke and more frequent wick and chimney cleaning, you can burn diesel oil in them. We used to get what I think I remember was Diesel #1 from a gas station. It was real similar to kerosene, wouldn't have been surprised if it was actually the same stuff.
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Besides the smoke and smell, diesel plugs up wicks pretty fast. One of those things to do only if you are real desperate.
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12/20/09, 07:50 AM
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A Petromax puts out 500CP.
It will light up the entire room and everyone in the room will be able to read from the light.
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Great, about same as 80 watt fluorescent fixture, how much fuel per hour does it burn to accomplish this? Also where do I plug in my laptop and radio?
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