Will Your Water Still Be Yours?

If you think the govt. owning the water is bad, beware of water rights being sold to private corporations who promise to 'manage' water. Watch the movie "Flow", about exactly this. It's a recently made documentary, and very eye opening and scary.

*Puts on tinfoil hat

I remember reading an article where ecologists tried to estimate the "carrying capacity" of the earth by looking at various resources (land condusive to agriculture, fresh water......) When they looked at water they realized that the current population of the earth is already well beyond what the carrying capacity should be.

Have you ever seen a population graph for rabbits? They reproduce until WAY over the actual carrying capacity of the environment, but it takes a couple years for the effects to be seen, but when it happens.....SLAM population crash!

sorry that was a little off topic.

On most issues I am very conservative, even libertarian, but on this one.....If water flows through your land, it really isn't yours. It would be great if all property owners understood the importance of riparian buffer zones, and the effect that runnoff from various ag chemicals have on the waterway, but the majority don't, and could care less. Is more government involvment the best answer? Almost certainly not, but untill someone has a better way to keep Joe Sixpack upstream from me from clearcutting right to the waters edge and spraying roundup to keep stuff from growing back, that's all we got.

Read the bill, its not just streams, rivers, and creeks. They took "navigable waterway" out of regulations and opened up their ability to govern sink holes, farm ponds, etc.

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yeah, dont' forget the fun and joy of metering wells.

on the flip side I definately think something needs to be done about controlling DEVELOPEMENT to use local water, not cram as much in as you can and pipe in water from hundreds of miles away(CA)--THAT is a huge problem and you hardly hear about it, compared to whining about ag(like in the Central Valley of CA)

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Yeah, I had a well drilled here at my house ( we use a spring for water source, but I was afraid it might dry up some day ) and I noticed the guy that came out to write the drilling contract took a GPS reading of the location, said "State requires it now for all new wells".

Well, in the time between signing the drilling contract, and the actual drill crew showing up, I decided to change the location....moved it about 200yds. So the drill crew shows up and I show them the company stake, and they drilled it and left. On the casing, they put a sticker that gives a well number and says "DO NOT REMOVE".....but it didn't say "DO NOT cut casing off"....ahahahaaaaa....which is what I did, after I built a small, block 'basement' for the well, and put a cover on it and 6" dirt/grass....then took the 6' piece of casing, with tag intact, down to where the GPS reading was taken....and stuck it in the ground.

So they can put a meter on it anytime they want as far as I'm concerned....I don't use the fool thing anyway......

(For entertainment purposes only....not to be construed as advice in your situation )

Don't forget to remove the tags from your mattress. The .gov wouldn't forbid you to take the tag off unless they wanted to use it to track your activities.

Maybe like this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121300007.html

Thanks, salmonslayer - that's my point - and think of the $$$$$ it'll cost you to have the govt. manage your stock pond......

And NO one is saying anything about calling your congresperson to complain about this change???

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Another step on the road to serfdom.

Er......you went swimming in your clothes?

Lets not be fooled here people. This is the modern age. There is enough water on this planet for everyone to drink. We have the technology to take the salt out of seawater, kill every known bacteria swimming in stream water (i.e. bleach or heat) and re-use grey water and so on. The only thing stopping this is GREED and POWER. Either its a government who would rather take then invest our tax dollars wisely or GREED by corporations that want the water but do not want the costs. Also, in some parts of the world its wars and lack of technology but in the U.S thats just crap. We live in a profit based system where if a wealthy individual or company wants something they ask Congress to take it. For those of you that believe the global warming crap you should be glad the iceburgs are melting because they are made up of clean water. Oh, I forgot, if they melt then water may actually reach those starving people in the deserts around the world, or there may actually be to much water freely available for the masses that the governments of the world will be unable to keep one more lie going about the resources we have available on this planet. Churches, use to enslave the masses through lack of education and fear of GOD and now the government does the same saying if we don't do this the world will end tomorrow. Has it occurred to anyone that GOD has a way of working things out and that man had better get to work day and night if he plans on destroying this planet in his lifetime. FEAR people, thats the name of the game. A game I will not play.

Hmmm.... Sounds like outright fraud to me. Let us know how that works out for you. Be sure to let us know about the "minimum monthly billing" when you get your new meter. Good luck.

First anyone drilling here i;ll do the GPS .If it is my well paid for by me it isn;t fraud it is non of anybody s business . And yes i can build my own drill rig .

Been to oil patch 101

What you want to do is to own all the watershed, so you can control what goes on above your water source. I own all of the land that provides water to my reservoir, which supplies my home.

If someone wants some of my water, I'll glady sell them some, at the same cost of bottled water.

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The real big fight will be over important things..like water.
We live in an ecosystem with finite resources. Why then do we waste drinking water to flush turds? Why do we dump waste and pollutants in our finite resource that all of us are made out of?

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A more serious issue is wetlands - they do _not_ need to be wet, but just have water at the surface for a few weeks per year.

If you own any land that is hard to drive on in spring or after a heavy rainfall - that is wetlands and would be covered by this ruling.

They have complete control of the land that is classified waters, and can tell you what is and is not allowed on that prroperty. They have setbacks of 300 feet where you can't build without special permits. You can't drain it. And on and on.

You lose control of what you have.

it is a proerty grab.

Bad news. Govt is really taking over.

I've mentioned this issue a while ago here. It will afect you if water is anywhere near your property, it doesn't have to be open water - just sorta close to wet once in a while. It's fedral, so you won't be able to run away from it.

--->Paul

To look at what can happen look at the Buffalo National River. They came in and with took the land at reasonable low prices then controlled all the land around it. They also controlled all the creeks that run into it. I went down to the creek and got a load of gravel out of a bar that was their away from the creek that had washed down by flood water across the road A park Ranger said I could not get it I said watch and see. He tole me that it was against the law for me to get it I then dumped it in his pick up and told hem to get it out of the road so I can get out of my place he then call a road grader out to move it out of the way so everybody can drive through it. All of this is out side of the park so he couldn't arrest me he would have to wait for the sheriff to arrest me on a county maintained road. You can drive through their and still see gravel piled up on both sides of the road. I can't even get some to repair the road when it washed away the county will have to buy the rock from a quariey and use that.

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Glad I live in the swamp, I mean state of Maryland. So much water noone cares what you do with it, so long as it isn't going to cause another bacteria outbreak in the waterways.

Granted, if global warming is true and the ice caps and glaciers melt my 11 feet above sea level self is screwed.

People are killing the waterways though. In Cambridge I heard stories from the old timers. They would go swimming, but you had to watch out for jellyfish. But the water was so clear you could see them no problem. Now it is a muddy brown muck that you couldn't see your hand in front of your face.

But water preservation laws are being abused. In Delaware a few riverside industries were polluting the water so they wiped out the entire industrial park, even the clean businesses. Gee I wonder why...... OH they are building riverfront houses starting valued in the millions..... >

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Oh, and this is the least of your worries. Once the western states get higher populations, increased demand, and lower supply they are just going to up the property taxes on anything decent and livable. There is a reason only rich people live on the river around here. They are the only ones that can afford the taxes.

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Rambler, wetland definitions have been that way for well over a decade now. This is not new.

Prismseed, Maryland has all kinds of water issues. Carroll county is one of the counties involved in the fighting because of serious lack of potable water.

i've been seeing the discussions on fox news as well concerning this and having large ponds and swamp areas on our property it does bring us some concern..as well as our drainage ditches that are required for snow melt runoff

they would all be regulated by the new law