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11/22/09, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kstornado11
We just don't have the $$ to go buy a gun at present.
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Stop eating for a few weeks. Eating is over-rated. Most people are hooked on eating, and insist on doing it on a regular basis.
Get thyself a gun. You can find used .22 rifles cheap at pawn shops.
If you were nearby, I'd loan you one.
You can easily poison the 'yotes, but it is controversial. Problem is you can poison things you don't intend on.
No easy answers... 'hunter's' are only going to be there for a short time... you're there all the time. Shooting them, or even 'at them' usually solves the problem. Doing nothing is bad... they'll only get more worse... they 'know' where the gunaphobic people live.
Good luck, and heartfelt condolonces on your furbuddy. I lost my #1 a few times over the years... he'd be out for his 'walkies' and not come back... I'd hear him half a mile away chasing a rabbit. Out where I'd heard 'yotes earlier. I'd pop off a few rounds with a rifle into the night air, to let the 'yotes know I 'was about'. I'd go out and find the dog, scold him, make him walk home with his tail between his legs. Luckily, a coydog or 'yote never got him.
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11/22/09, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kstornado11
Is there such a thing as a coyote hunter?? If so, where can I find one?? We don't own any guns, unfortunately, sure wish we did. They are HORRIBLE here, very,very bold & big, and I believe they got my little orange Pomeranian on Wednesday morning. I was dumb & forgot to bring him in after potty time, as my son's therapists all came for a review meeting. I have put up fliers, contacted the shelter, local radio station that broadcasts lost pets for ya, the vets, etc. I am just heartbroken, & feel so guilty.
Last night,there was one out in the yard, barking just like a dog, the only way I knew it WASN'T was it would lapse into yipping & howling after a while. I KNOW it was trying to lure out my Labradoodle & the little GSD mix pup I found abandoned the other day. Me screaming & cussing & DH setting off fireworks on the front porch didn't phase that Spawn of Satan ONE BIT, he just kept barking, just on the other side of the truck. The one big male I saw in my yard last month was about as big as a GSD.
Finally DH took the dogs out to the pen, figured they'd be OK out there. This morning, there was a HOLE DUG on the OUTSIDE of the dog pen that was NOT there yesterday!! I am thinking they now have a taste for dogs, as they have never been this bold before! I am scared to death to let my 6 year old son outside. We live in the middle of very thick woods, lots of hills, next to a campground/nature preserve.
Any ideas who I might contact for help? We just don't have the $$ to go buy a gun at present.
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Email me at Randy@MeinerSolutions.com with your general location and contact info and I will see if I can't wrangle you up a few coyote hunters.
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11/22/09, 04:05 PM
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Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by Wolf mom
Remember you can't shoot within 500 ft of a home - may be different where you live. Check your laws.
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So this morning when DH shot a coyote off the back porch......that was a bad thing?  When you are a varmint like that you don't get a second chase at going to the pig pen.
They have been going crazy around here lately. Not sure what is going on. The are really scary sounding at night in the packs.  We haven't been seeing them in the day time until today! Killed one this morning and about 1 hr. later seen another one!
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11/22/09, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf mom
Remember you can't shoot within 500 ft of a home - may be different where you live. Check your laws.
Ya gotta fence your property! Kill the coyotes and you'll have lots more rabbits eating your garden and more rats too. Your choice. I decided to fence & let the coyotes run, sing and eat the other critters.
Sorry about your dog, Poms are so cute.
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here I belive its 450' of any occupied dwelling (could kind of manipulated to a occupied garage,shed?) the exception is to have permission to do so otherwise and not just verbal but written!
from the description sounds more like a feral dog pack! coyotes well they can get used to people and loose some of thier natural fear, most high tail it once they know thier spotted. dogs dont have a fear of man (unless its been abused but even then I would keep a closer eye on one like that) thats what makes feral dogs so dangerous.
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11/22/09, 07:43 PM
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Since you own the dewelling in Michigan you give your self permission to shoot youtes out the kitchen window if need be.
They can be very bold where not hunted a lot, In Namha they were coming into the village and taking pet cats and small dogs off porches. They killed several bigger dogs chained up in back yards.
After hunting a 2 mile radis around the village and taking 53 youtes their problem has stopped but we still get a bunch there every season.
I also disagree on the 22 if it isn't a center fire like a 220 swift, 22 250 or a 223 or some wild cat they just won't in most cases kill a youte unless you do hit the heart every time. They maybe varmints but they do not deserve to suffer.
I also like the 243 or 6 mm's as they can double as a deer rifle. A friend uses nothing but a 12ga. shot gun with #4 shot but he is a very good colled and gets them in close.
Some one here should be able to help you out.
http://www.predatormastersforums.com...ubbthreads.php
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11/22/09, 08:32 PM
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alley the original poster is in kansas, if your refering to me we dont have them in my area for some reason or not a large population at the least, I see fox time to time and our rabbit population is to big to have coyotes. by that I mean there are places I go deer hunting that the packs will keep you up all night and small game is scarce, I have also come across thier kills and found deer (whats left) that some unlucky guy couldnt find and left over night.
as far as eliminating threats I have no issue should I and the law disagree (though I do try and avoid that)
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11/23/09, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kstornado11
I sent an email to KS W & P, will wait & see if they get back to me. If not, will see if I can find somebody local. I have seen them in the yard during the day, like I said there was a big male in the driveway one day ,almost as big as a German shepherd. Have seen them many times during the day, in the yard, in the woods by the house, trotting down the middle of the road. Sure didn't act scared of me one bit! Fencing isn't an option, as we rent.
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Try t posts and rolled fencing. T posts are removable, so it really shouldn't be an issue.
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11/23/09, 10:49 AM
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I've already posted, but I'll add this...
I couldn't have chickens or other small animals where I live (in the middle of nowhere, and on the edge of 10K acres of half wild timber company land), if I didn't protect them. Basic protection includes fencing... to a degree. However, my most important tool is a Ruger MkII 22lr. pistol. It sits in a drawer right next to the door. If I hear a commotion outside, I instinctively carry the pistol.
Coyotes, if you don't give them a reason to be afraid of you, won't.
I have hundreds of varied tools on the place. Some are used once a decade, some once a year, some each week, and some every day. I may not actually 'use' the pistol daily, but it's rare that I don't actually touch it and carry outside each day.
If I were stripped naked and thrown down in some new state, as soon as I got some clothes, I'd get a job, get some land, and after getting a shovel and an axe, I'd procure another pistol. It doesn't get any more basic... If you have a homestead and decide to have animals, it is your moral duty to protect them... Kind feelings and noble intentions have never stopped a varmint from feasting on poultry and other farm animals. Once they get a taste of easy pickings, they WILL always come back for more, till there's nothing left.
Well, that's my 2cents... Take it or leave it. I double dog guarantee you my system works 99% better than any alternative. If you have a problem, do something about it. Depending on others is not what homesteading is about. Even if you can get someone to fix your problems, there's no guarantee they'll be available next time. On the rare occasions when I need to pay or get someone to do something, I study up on the problem first, and then observe them... so next time I can fix it myself. I don't accept excuses from myself... no matter how disagreeable the situation is, if I've seen it done or figure I can do it myself, I do.
I do not now or have I ever like having to kill varmints... but I take responsibility, and do what needs to be done. I've gotten to where I'll relocate snakes (they're getting scarcer and scarcer)... but coons, possums, coyotes... they'll 'come back'... so they're quickly put down.
Good luck... and it hurts me deeply that your lil furbuddy might have been taken. I'd be devastated.
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11/23/09, 01:07 PM
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You don't have to live in the country to have a coyote problem. Our homestead is a 30 min. ride into the mountains. We have seen none there, but we live in town where I manage a 60 ac. horse farm for our elderly neighbor. We have several coyotes here and they have no fear of humans. They are bold and dangerous! I do not trust them and will shoot on site. As will several of our neighbors.
I am sorry for the loss of your puppy. We can't let ours out alone.
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11/23/09, 01:20 PM
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almost all laws that forbid shooting near a building allow you to shoot as near as you want to your own. I don't understand why you need someone to do this for you? if they are that bold and stay in one spot, they'll be easy to kill. take a gun outside, line 'em up and SHOOT them
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12/01/09, 02:43 AM
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Your furbaby was so cute. Poms are so precious. I don't know what I would do if something happened to mine.
This is him this summer before getting his double coat(he was only about 7mo old at the time)
Anyways, even though I am city folk (for now..  ) we still get coyote attacks even in the city. There was a article a while back someone walking their dog and a coyote came out of the bush and grabbed it. I really do hate coyotes even if its "what they do".
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12/01/09, 08:56 AM
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Too many fat quarters...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texican
Stop eating for a few weeks. Eating is over-rated. Most people are hooked on eating, and insist on doing it on a regular basis.
Get thyself a gun. You can find used .22 rifles cheap at pawn shops.
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I agree.
For that matter, particularly this time of year, you can get a cheap .22 at Wally World, Pamida, etc. Probably around $100. It's a small gun, but it can and will kill coyotes.
It's the only rifle my husband had til he was in his early thirties (when I got him a 243 for Xmas). His little .22 killed many a coyote. It's still the one he puts in the feeding tractor in the winter for just that purpose.
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12/01/09, 10:14 AM
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Look for website of American Trappers Association. They can put you in touch with a trapper in your area. I'm near positive Kansas has a trappers association. As far as guns are concerned, if you're not comfortable with one, maybe you shouldn't get one.
My condolences for the loss of your little dog.
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12/01/09, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf mom
Ya gotta fence your property! Kill the coyotes and you'll have lots more rabbits eating your garden and more rats too. Your choice. I decided to fence & let the coyotes run, sing and eat the other critters.
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Having children, I'd much rather have a rabbit problem than a coyote problem. And that's despite the fact that my children are young enough to never be more than a few feet away from me.
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12/02/09, 10:49 AM
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KS Wildlife & Parks can also give you the names of guys who like to hunt coyotes. I imagine they'll come by and visit with you about the problem. If we weren't several hundred miles away, DH would love to come shoot them for you. He coyote hunts in the winter months.
Hope you hear from your local agent soon.
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12/02/09, 01:50 PM
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Rebate available on this one:
http://marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/795.asp
$95 after rebate. Worth every penny.
That, two bags of chicken leg quarters and a gallon of anti-freeze will thin them out....hypothetically speaking, of course...
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12/02/09, 04:10 PM
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I am not saying anyone would but...should anyone consider poison, then think carefully about it again. We used to have a coyote problem around here. They would come up near the house, we found scat around the barn, we had to lock up cats and dogs every night. We heard them howl from three areas. I also put on post here asking "How to" get rid of coyote. We called Trappers, we asked Hunters, we did set out one trap but got nothing.
Then, one month ago, my two full size Labs got sick. They would not eat, could not get up, rushed to the Vet and she said they had eaten something that had poison in it. Probably she said, a rotting carcass in the woods from an animal killing by poison.
Luckily, my dogs did not eat enough to kill them. The Vet gave them a shot, we did blood work, one had to take antibiotics for infection in the tummy, both had to get 2nd shot and now they are fine.
But, during the same time, we have not heard one more howl from a coyote. All howling has stopped. Not a peep. We used to hear them every night. And now, nothing.
If someone had shot them or trapped them, then it would not bother me but to know that someone most probably set out poison that has killed other animals in addition to the target coyote, just bothers me badly.
I know that sounds "two faced" and yes, I know the coyote are pests, but the rest of the animals should not be killed just to get rid of the coyote. It is too dangerous. At least, in my opinion.
Good luck - I hope someone can help you and not use the poison way.
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12/02/09, 05:55 PM
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Get yourself a rabbit distress call, a 12 guage shotgun (preferably double barrel), and a box of #2 shot shotgun shells. Enjoy!
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12/02/09, 06:38 PM
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Yep Apawnshop is a probably good place to buy a cheap gun
The $95 Marlin i sa great deal too.
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