Might Get Hogs Could This Be A Problem?

fixer1958 · #21 10/22/09, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shygal

I don't understand why you are talking of getting hogs, goats, etc when you have been posting about selling your place, moving, etc?

Enough said ya think?
You reap what you sow big boy.

angelsprite · #22 10/22/09, 08:25 PM

Rocky,
My suggestion would be to erect a privacy fence of some type around the hogs' enclosure or plant a fast growing screen of evergreen shrubs. If they can't see them, they can only guess at what is in there. If you don't tell anyone around you, then your neighbors can only ask and you can tell them anything you want. You can say, "Oh, that's just Rover." And leave it at that.
Unless you bought into a place with deed restrictions, or city ordinances, then you are free to use your land as you see fit. You are not required to explain to anyone and it's none of your neighbor's business. People have this weird idea that they are entitled to know everything there is to know about the folks around them, but just ask them some personal questions and suddenly they believe in privacy. LOL.

big rockpile · #23 10/22/09, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shygal

I don't understand why you are talking of getting hogs, goats, etc when you have been posting about selling your place, moving, etc?

Guess you didn't get the Memo!

Farmerwilly2 in March or April we're going to burn the place off to have New Growth for Deer.

big rockpile

Farmerwilly2 · #24 10/22/09, 09:55 PM

What grows back? I'm not familiar with that.

big rockpile · #25 10/22/09, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmerwilly2

What grows back? I'm not familiar with that.

It clears the Leaf Litter and gives more Browse,plus it kills Cedar and Maple which provide nothing for Deer.Other wise known as Poormans Food Plot.

Plus I get more Blue Berries and Mushrooms.

big rockpile

haypoint · #26 10/22/09, 11:19 PM

Up here, cedar and maple are what deer live on.

Most hay fields are burned as soon as they are dry in the spring. Our long cool fall season is great for hay field growth, poor for making it into hay. Burning all that growth, cleans up the field, burns weed seeds and adds some potash to the soil.

A few years back, I had a neighbor that owned 400 acres next to my 360 acres. Because of the nice view, he planned to build his house 20 feet from my property line. I told him he was free to do as he wanted, it is his property. I let him know that I'd be building my swine operation 20 feet off my property line, 40 feet from his picture windows. He backed off 300 feet.

In Ionia County, a hog farmer needed to go from 30 sows to 1000 to stay profitable. Neighbors did everything they could to stop him to no avail. Agricultural land is for raising livestock. They moved to the country for the fresh air, but got a house full of hog smell.

Interesting that people are promoting he raise the pigs because it is his land, but many of those same people would be against a corporate farm raising 30,000 hogs on their land. Let's all try to keep our class envy in check, OK?

Mrs. Homesteader · #27 10/23/09, 04:44 AM

Would the wind blow toward the neighbors? If not and they are not close, I say go ahead.

NCLee · #28 10/23/09, 05:15 AM

Neighbor does a controlled burn every spring on the land he has planted in pines. They give us a call and let us know so that we don't call the fire dept when we see the smoke.

Rocky, be sure to get a controlled burn permit, if that's required in your location. And, notify your local fire dept, if they're not aware that you have a permit. Best thing you can do, if you know he'll complain.

Agree with the others to put your hogs as far away as possible from that neighbor. No point in giving him something else to complain about if you can avoid it. It just ain't worth the aggravation.

Before we moved out here, we used to have a too close neighbor who complained about every thing we did. (Found out later, we wanted our place, but didn't buy it when he had the opportunity. Had used it as his own for a number of years without buying or paying rent for the land.)

It just ain't worth the aggravation if you have ways to avoid it.

Lee

Big Dave · #29 10/23/09, 05:21 AM

Go to your neighbor Tell him about HT and offer to raise him a hog. Let them help you raise the porker.

big rockpile · #30 10/23/09, 05:55 AM

Here it is after the last burn

Might Get Hogs Could This Be A Problem? - Homesteading Questions

Here is fire at night

Might Get Hogs Could This Be A Problem? - Homesteading Questions

big rockpile

Ken Scharabok · #31 10/23/09, 07:09 AM

At one time in Florida cattle were raised in the scrub of palmetos and such. When the were to be rounded up the owner would hire locals with horses and long whips, which were cracked over the backs of the cattle to direct them. Where the term Florida Cracker came from.

Pigs they would round up by feeding them in an enclosed area.

They would also burn off the scrub on a regular basis. Then state pretty well outlawed it, which came back to haunt them in the form of major fires fueled by the now built up understory.

Locally you can hire the Forestry Dept. to do a controlled burn. Something like $3 acre to do so.

Pigs are cleaner animals than you might image. Likely they will select one area of the field for their toilet area. The 'stink' mostly comes from over-crowding and poor sanitation.

Visit with some in the area to see how they raise them, such as shelter, space, fencing, water access and feeding practices.

Is there a day-old bakery outlet in your area? Then finish them off on corn.

And they can be used to clear land. I have been told one trick is to take a digger bar and drill holes around the roots of a stamp. Then pour corn down into the holes. The hogs going after the corn will nicely dig out the stump eventually.

Up to you on whether or not to approach him. For example, I'm thinking of putting some pigs on that area. Would you be interested in buying one and paying X percentage of the feed bill and slaughter cost for your freezer? At least it won't then come as a surprise to him.

My oldest sister's husband told me about taking a sow down the road to be bred. Every time the boar pushed she would back up a bit. Finally backed him up to where the electric fence was at testicle height. Said he completely cleared the sow and wouldn't breed another for a while.

I'm told locally it was once a common practice to burn off fields. Then had several people point out, "Well, there use to be a barn here until it burned down."

big rockpile · #32 10/23/09, 08:03 AM

As pointed out I have raised Pigs on the property before.The place I'm wanting to put them is over an acre in size,figure its big enough for two or three pigs.Shouldn't have a problem with smell.It has heavy Field Wire around it.Plenty of room to where they shouldn't try too hard to get out.

As far as my neighbor was getting along with him fine until last Spring when I had to pull a Pistol on him and run him off my property.

big rockpile

Oldcountryboy · #33 10/23/09, 10:00 AM

A 100 yards away would acceptable. I've had them as close as 20 yards from my back door. But, I was only finishing them out for 30 days.

Really no reason to be raising pigs unless your going strictly organic, other then that it might be cheaper to buy a couple that just needs to be finished out for about 30 days and then head to the butcher with them. I've found it to be just about as cheap if not cheaper to do that then to raise from sucklings. The last time I raised from suckling it seemed to cost me a fortune by the time they was ready for the freezer. Didn't seem worth it to me.

big rockpile · #34 10/23/09, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcountryboy

A 100 yards away would acceptable. I've had them as close as 20 yards from my back door. But, I was only finishing them out for 30 days.

Really no reason to be raising pigs unless your going strictly organic, other then that it might be cheaper to buy a couple that just needs to be finished out for about 30 days and then head to the butcher with them. I've found it to be just about as cheap if not cheaper to do that then to raise from sucklings. The last time I raised from suckling it seemed to cost me a fortune by the time they was ready for the freezer. Didn't seem worth it to me.

Ok I was wondering about this myself if it was worth it.Kind of like Chickens we like Dark Meat and can buy in Bulk fairly cheap to where it hardly is worth it,plus we don't use enough Eggs to justify having them.

Thinking now about the only thing to be raising is Rabbits.Love the Meat and have the manure for the Garden which I like.

If I butcher Hogs or Beef might be best to buy on the Hoof ready to Butcher and not have any feed in them.

big rockpile