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Old 12/29/09, 07:29 PM
 
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Otherwise, it's $.75 per pound for cut and wrap,
Wow, is it typical for cut and wrap of pork to be more than cut and wrap of beef? I'm just curious because we are having some steers done next week and the charge is $.39 per pound for cut and wrap, although he says its going up next year a bit. Slaughter is $60 per animal, though they do haul it down to the butcher place.
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Old 12/29/09, 08:53 PM
 
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Commercial feeds have a history of being tainted with melamine, PCBs and other undesireable ingredients you really don't want in your meat.
SORRY WALTER BUT YOUI JUST CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!


The Melamine contamination was in a Rice Bran product used in pet foods, very, very few pig consumed any of that product and those that did were tanked and not allowed to enter the human food chain.

I applaud your efforts to sell a niche product, but please stop promoting your product by posting lies and misinformation about commercial livestock production and feeding.

Jim Smith
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Old 12/29/09, 08:59 PM
 
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3) CAFO pork is subsidized by the government and cheaper but that does not reflect the full cost of the pork. It will give you the lowest possible checkout counter price. Additional costs show up in the medical care system, water quality degradation, air pollution, higher taxes to pay for subsidies, etc. Raising livestock, veggies, fruit, etc in a sustainable manner costs more so expect to pay more if you value that. The Big Ag 'pork industry' like the similar Big Ag cattle industry is heavily subsidized by subsidization of corn and soy along with the subsidized of petroleum. This is indirect but real and it helps to keep the price of food low at the checkout counter. Just don't compare apples to oranges.
To be fari Walter you must admit that you and every american enjoys the benefits of the Oil Subsidies.

And you need to be honest that your operation is indirectly subsidized by the dairy industry through your use of free or low cost whey.

The US Government has not purchased one hog during the past 24 months when the hard working US pork producers have lost money. They and the beef industry do not receive the sweetheart payments that grain, oilseed, and dairy farmers receive.

Jim
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Old 12/29/09, 11:43 PM
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About the price of cut and wrap for beef vs pork, I don't know, but I'll call tomorrow and see. I don't remember since I didn't have it done.

Also, a mention of cheap feed: We are able to get 55-gallon barrels of "milk product," consisting of not-out-of-date tubs of sour cream, yoghurt and liquid milk from the Safeway distribution center. For us, that's in Portland, about 80 miles away, but with our dual-axle trailer, we can bring home 2 pallets, consisting of 8 barrels, 2700 pounds of product. It takes me, by myself, 1 1/2 hour to empty one barrel-full of containers and stack the plastic containers for recycle, but the pigs certainly like it. I know Walter has said he gets whey delivered, but with a total of 2 big and 2 small pigs, that wouldn't work for us. We get nearly half of their food for 3 weeks for $30 in gas.

We could also get bread and veggie discards from the same place, but I believe the milk is a better food for the cost and time it takes to get it.

I suspect other large chains have similar situations people might be able to use to get free and cheap feed.
Kit
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