i dealing with hoa.p-2-
 

now your messing with my professional life now along with my personal life also..

this people sent the letters with pictures to my place work and saight the Office of Professional Responsibilty office ..address who may it concern typle letter..

the picture showed the place a mess with pipes in the trenchs and uncovered and other stuff out in the open along with the piles of dirt and rock on the ground ..the picture where taken right after the people had left for the day and no one was on site there ...

she sent a letter to the what we call in our line of work is..Office of Professional Responsibilty ..or the headhunters in my work ..

the only thing saved my bacon today was i had gotten into the office this morning and the first thing i did when in the office was go over and tell my boss about the letter and and show it to him and the he called the people up in the opr office if they had a min to deal with the problem that came up over the weekend with me ..they read the letter and ask me a few questions about ..

the first thing they ask me was do they have a leg to stand on ..and i told them no and the second was did you ever join the hoa there ..i said no ..

they went over the computer and look up in my personal record about the land and how it was deed and when it was deed to me and along with when the subdivision was put in..for everything about that land is in my personal file ..

when i was hired for my job i had to pass a very lengthy backcheck along with a finacial background check ..like who i bank with and where i my accounts and what do i own etc etc etc.. ..to them my life is a open book and they can come and check it out anytime they want to for i signed paperwork to allow to do that along with drug testing and a few other things.. ..

so that means that this people have a right to step into my office and ask me to come with them and tell them why this is going on..

they got there copy of the letter right before lunch today and they call me and my boss into there office upstairs and we spent about 30 mins trying to figure this out and get the problem solved before they had to kick up to the next level ..

that when the lady made a quick phone call to the our lawyers and explianed to them the problem and a quick 30 sec phone and they came up with a way to have me deal with the problem and not have it go into my personal jacket ..

one of the lady in the opr office is from northern az and she and i got to talking about the area and we found out that we knew a few people in the area ..and she told me about her problems with the hoa in her area where she had bought land for her and husband to retire to up there ..for her and husband are both from the Flagstaff az area..

she also told who to go and see when i get into Flagstaff to see this lawyer and told me the person name and where there office was and a phone number that the guy who she called faxed over to us ...,for she know a lawyer that deals with hoa problems ..for he helped her out when she had her problem with her land up there..

for my boss and the people in the office was asking me what the heck i going on with your home building project out there..i told them that i have no idea .. i told them about the what they had did and how they are getting on everyone about this and that where we have land there.. there is going to be a problem with them so enough for i was not the only other person that they did this little number to .

i ask for wed though next monday off to go down there and clear it up and get this mess clear up ..

she tells me this when we where walking out the door tonight when off work ..she i wonder why half the people that work in this building can not stand to have a h,o,a, typle where they live.

i ask her do live where there is a hoa she heck no ..i can not work my truck if i want if we have one of those where we live ..her and husband like to rock climb in the there jeep and i guess that what they do for fun in there off time ..

I hope you get a favorable resolution to this soon. The hoa are a bunch of Nazis.
So sorry you are going thru this.

Patty

iam venting a way that i can without getting into trouble by going there and doing little i will teach you this dance we do..it called i going to stomp you into a mud hole dance ..

the people in the opr where very nice to me about it..for i think that everyone in the world has dealt the a nazi style hoa before and they do not like them ..

she told before i left in my car to get it done with and cleared up ..so it not become a problem down the line for you and your transferrer to another prostion in my line of work ..for i leave to go back east in dec time frame ..

obviously their be someting fishy going in HERE.



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ROFLMAO:rotfl:

If you never joined the HOA, and they are harrassing you, and even causing trouble with you through your employer, I would ask a lawyer about what your rights are. And I would have him send a cease and desist letter DEMANDING that they leave you alone.

Also, look at the photos that they submitted to your employers. Were they taken from the road, or did they trespass on your property to photograph it? If they trespassed, it's time to call in law enforcement.

they where on the property .. some of the phots where right at the start over the fence line look towards the road and some where taken over the trenchs for the water lines and spetic lines..

i allready called the sheriffs to keep a eye on it ..

that what the miss b-did in opr for me at work ..she got a lawyer number from our lawyers for work and they did some of the leg work on the way to deal with them right now ..

but the problem is that if they get a second letter it now has to go up the chain of command and i have to go in front of a review board if they think i have not got the problem solved ..for now it a what we call a matter of personal finacail area and they take it as i am not takeing care of my credit and debts that i have ..


my next move is into a middle level mgn prostion ..and that means i come out in the end with a high civil service grade persion instead of the grade iam in now .,i will come out at a high levels up at the end time in the job ..it means about $.12,000.oo dollars a year add to my year retirement sum of money that i will make .. and that a big chunk of change to have some one mess with and me not do something about it ..

a few years ago this would have been water off my back ..but now the close i get to retirement the more i have to worry about someone comeing in and playing with the areas of beening supid and puting me and my future retirement plans into the trick bag then throwing me under the bus for fun ....

that what a good friend of my said to be before he retired a year ago ..he told that the last two years where the hardest on him for he really had to watch what he did and how he dealt with people on problems ..

To me its gone past a simple cease and desist letter. They are now, IMO, at the boarder of extortion. I'd contact a lawyer but it would be one of those "If I don't win, I don't get paid!" types and see just how much he thinks I could win in a law suit. I'd also contact the local law enforcement and the USPS.

I'd also be very tempted to put a nice big sign in my yard saying just how I felt about the hoa and it'd be in orange letters on a purple background saying this is the colors I'm thinking about painting my house. Then I'd invite a few friends to park their cars, boats and ATV's on my property and see if any of them had some old washers and/or dryers we could set up as 'lawn art'. Maybe a dozen pink flamingos would be a nice touch. If I knew when these people were likely to drive by I'd be sitting in the yard in a ratty old recliner wearing a dirty white tee shirt spitting tobacco into a soda bottle.

But then again I tend to react. . .well let's just say poorly when I feel someone has threaten me.

I think we are getting our chain jerked with this post! Where in any job does a HOA potential problem get carried into a persons employment and pension? It doesn't!

I suspect you may be right

Any job requiring a security clearance also requires that you maintain a spotless record in your personal and financial life. The idea is that you should not have anyone who is able to exert leverage on you... exactly what this h.o.a. is trying to do. Obviously they know the system.

I can't see how this can be happening at all. I wonder about the chain yanking also.

First, I'm a little surprised that Henry2 can be moving into middle management. I'm sorry if this sounds insulting, but I have a very hard time parsing out your posts because your English is so poor. Literacy tests are inherent to promotion and middle management is all about the paper you pass. I can't see this at all.

Second, I'm a military officer who gets called for the weirdest things that happen to anyone in my command, but a HOA that they don't belong to? Even here, where security clearances are major issues, if I got some sort of extortion letter from a HOA my sailor didn't belong to and that had no rights over his private property, I'd simply call my friendly JAG and have them find a good suing lawyer for my sailor. I might give them a call asking how that extortion racket is working for them. And a civilian? No way.

And if those pictures showed a hoarding problem or something horrific and it was a sailor in uniform, I'd refer them to medical psych services for the problem. I'd still call the HOA and ask them how that extortion racket was going.

Henry, I find this all a little bit difficult to believe at this point.

I didn't want to be the one to say it, but I fully agree with you, Ma'am. (yes, that is your title to me, unless directed otherwise)

Relax Dngrous :) We're on a board. I'm Christy.

Better safe than sorry. I've met a few online who INSISTED they be called Sir.

It would be nice if you could at least read everything the op is "saying".

Once again I say Syntax is your friend....
Have you ever read any of those Nigerian letters?
WOW !!

Why have you started another thread on the same topic???

When I lived in Phoenix, I was president of my HOA. What you are talking about is way out of the reach of any HOA.

There's something else going on here, folks.

Hard to follow the story henry2. Are you saying this hoa found your employer and complained about your house to your employer? If so, you might well be able to make life very interesting for that particular hoa.

There comes a point where one really needs to contact a lawyer. Off hand, I'd say you're at or perhaps past that point now.

I agree as there is a whole LOT more here that IF true is going and not just with the hoa.~! Never have I ever heard of a single person getting hassled at their place of employment. mHeck that has nothing to do what so ever with a HOA~!~
But it sure is getting bigger in what the story first started out to be, that is for sure. Nearly a unbelievable story now.

Glad I wasn't the only one wondering that

I switched spell check over to decipher and the best I can figure, since it's deer season, there must be a couple of undersized does hanging from the 'regulated minimum diameter' tree in the front yard, according to the hoa's..hose...whos...whoos:shrug: regulations.

Makes sense to me... The minimum tree diameter, that is...

I'm glad Christy said it first. I am having a devil of a time following the story just trying to decode the spelling/grammar.

I find it hard to believe this person could pass any entry level test for any job.
No offense.

agreed, sorry. I do agree on this. I just read this person's posts out loud and my husband claims if he/she are management material the Country is in deep doo.

Home Owner's Associations are a way for neighborhoods to have a degree of consistancy. If I don't want to have to look at a junk yard in the front lawn of my neighbors, then I have to belong to a HOA that prohibits it.

HOA can be very weak or they can restrict what color you can paint your house.

If you don't want to "fit in" with the standards or norms of a community that has a HOA, move.

I don't live in a community controled by a HOA. I have friends that belong to HOA. I know of one that doesn't let you leave your garage door hang open and nothing can be left outside (back yard) overnight, not even a BBQ grill.

I know of a couple Condos that don't allow you to hang clothes out to dry on the balcony.

I do live in a township that has a Zoning Ordinance. That ordinance restricts how close to the property line I can build. It sets a minimum square footage for a home. It restrricts the number of non-operatioonal vehicles I can have outside. It limits the number of homes I can build on a lot. There is a whole book of regulations. I'm fine with it. It limits the trashy eyesores and helps preserve my land values.

It's possible in whatever capacity he is in henry comes from a different background and English is his second language, and it still comes a little difficult. That would fit in with his story & work with what is going on.

I have enjoyed the threads and hope he continues to post here. I do understand the raised eyebrow & a bit of wonder, but it is interesting reading in any event. :)

I would not be happy in a HOA area. I do appreciate minimal zoning as haypoint points out, tho I can be frustrated by it, I appreciate the setbacks & so forth. Where I am agriculture is somewhat protected by the zoning, it is difficult to carve up this county into 5 acre plots and put down the Mcmansions - as well as homesteads - and create a lot of friction between agriculture & city folk. But in order to get those protections, I have to conform a little bit myself.

A HOA would be way too much red tape for me, I can understand the negative issues against them! And if 1/2 of what henry says is true, he certanly is in a 'busybody' place.

--->Paul

Although I'm not supposed to tell anyone, I'll tell you fine people. I just got an email from some lady named Shelia who is dying from cancer. (Her husband died several years ago and left her a ton of money.) Anyway, she picked ME out of the millions of people on this earth to give me $110 Million. (Aren't I a lucky person?)

I only have to email her or call her lawyer. (I can't call her directly because her family is around - and she doesn't want her family to know she's leaving them out of her will.)

So sometime in the near future, I will be a millionaire - 110 times over! How cool is that?!? I'm going to be rich, RICH I tell ya!

You too!! And I thought I was the luckiest person here. I guess there is two of us lucky dogs:dance:

I managed HOAs and condos for 26 years. I've never heard of a situation like this. An HOA cannot force anything on anyone that is outside the HOA property. The documents for the HOA are explicit in the property under the association. I've also never heard of going to an employer to enforce compliance.

Oh WOW !!!!
Congratulations !!!
How cool is that ?

Our HOA (we are on our third board of directors in as many years!) has decided to ignore the majority votes against paving and will be having the 2 main roads paved anyway, which the property owners get to pay for over a 10-year period...which is about how long the paving will hold up. The board claims we voted them in and they are like Congress: once in power they get to decide what is best for us so no more property owners voting on anything.

One of the brochures I was given when we looked at the property 15 years ago was of a boy and his dad with fishing gear walking barefoot down the dirt road to the river. If these folks want paving in the woods, they should move back to NJ!

My first wife was a fully functional, intelligent, and rational person from Brazil with a poor command of the English language. I'm sure glad I could look past that. We may have had some problems understanding everything that we said to each other, but some things everybody says in the same language. I have no experience with home owners associations, security clearance, or anything else mentioned here except the "getting chain yanked" part. Almost assuredly not. in the usual chain yanking, Look for things like similar language and phrases, same words misspelled, etc. Look for when one poster ceases posting and another starts. We're all aware of instances where a poster came back with a different ID and stirred the pot. Henry2 seems legitimate to me. Wish I could help him out.

One of my sisters worked for the DOJ and they did a background check and a credit check, and it was exactly like you are saying. You have to keep your nose clean so no one can put you in a compromising position ever. Even the appearance of a compromised position can be a terminating offence.

I have read stories of people being harassed by hoa's when they were not part of the hoa. It is possible and they can make your life miserable, especially if a hoa is created after you have purchased a home there. I've seen posts on craigslist where people have had to get rid of items after a hoa changed rules or someone has never got the rules and did something to offend the current hoa enforcement deputy. People can be real jerks if they don't approve of what you are doing with your property, even if they are not being harmed or bothered by what you do on your property.

I sincerely hope the op gets this whole mess worked out and can file some sort of charges against whoever is harassing them. This is pure harassment.

Many people didn't believe the person who's house was being shot up either.