Harassing behaviour?

adamtheha, you can move in next to my house, as long as you don't have dogs that harass my animals. Here we are allowed to shoot from anywhere on our property as long as the bullets stay on our property.

It also would really tick off my "neighbors" from 2 doors down who complained about my "weeds" (milkweed and goldenrod), manure on the ground (????, well it is on the ground in the garden. Totally legal), oil in a bucket (only 1 person would know about that), and trash (again????). I never did get a letter from the board of health, checked the regulations myself and nothing I have violates BofH regs.

'Here' milkweed is a noxious weed & must be controlled by law. Can be different where you live. Why anyone would choose to grow.... But, that's not the question here.

I remember your story from your other thread, you got harassed too - just pointing out in some places, some weeds really are illegal.

Manure is also becoming a thorny issue, how to store it & use it. In the quantities you have it should be no issue, but in law, one size fits all. If you stockpile it (asin composte....) you need to place the pile on a different are every year, and grow something green where the old pile was. Etc.

Many of these laws never see the light of day and are not really enforced 'here', but are on the books if someone complains.

--->Paul

Milkweed is not a noxious weed here. I am aware it is in some places just as goldenrod is a noxious weed in some places. And I did check the laws before planting it (for the Monarch butterflies, also has medicinal qualities Tastes pretty good when properly prepared too.) as well as checking the laws on manure disposal. I would never stockpile it, my garden needs it too much. It's never straight manure, always mixed with dirt or shavings. Breaks down all too quickly when applied correctly. If the laws change I may have problems because in some areas you can't use manure even on a garden within 500 feet of a waterway, even if you have a shrubby buffer zone.
I'll just have to make sure I never move to Minnesota. I like my butterflies too much.

Loosen that there beanie up.

Should they be taxed on what they are PLANNING to do? Until it actually happens, plans mean nothing.

Appearantly the deputy does not know the law they cited (170 yards which the LEO stated is far less than the 200 meters in the law).

Funny you did not mention the alleged animal abuse (no water). That borders on slander.

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Roger

You used the word "street". That probably means you are pretty close to a lot of people. In that situation there is always going to be a number of people who are the type that are going to be bad neighbors. Quite a few city people have no idea about farm animals and figure they are dangerous. And in fact, they can get in the road and be hit. If someone is going fast enough that they hit an animal rather than avoid it, it could be a serious accident. So not only would you feel bad that people are hurt, but you'd probably get sued.

And EVERYONE has cell phones, and EVERYONE is going to use it these days to call the police to tell them there's a cow/goat in the road, and you get a visit by the cops. They don't bother calling you, they don't bother stopping to tell you the cow is out, they call the cops.

So while I sympathize with your neighbor problems, when you live that close to people you're going to get it. It's almost inevitable.

My best advice? Keep the cops on your side. Keep all of the people who get called out to your place on your side. It's the only way you can foil troublemaking neighbors in the end.

Jennifer

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This is a good view condsidering the other side of the story as well(just sayin it's always onesided on forums). Frankly when new people move in, especially city people, they usually don't know the rules/laws. ANd frankly a lot(most) of new people have the attitude of leave me alone, don't tell me what to do. Sure neighbors are concerned about shooting near buildings, loose animals, and meth heads. Sometiems when newcomers are prickly the best way is to educate them by cop--let the cops inform them of the law, since the newcomer won't take the resident's word for it.

Seriously, we had a few people who would call the fire dept, the forestry people, the cops, etc on us, and we never were doing anything wrong, but through us knowing the law(and being cordial to the law, yet knowing our rights), and not sucking up as well as being friendly and exercising our rights as landowners, now those people are good friends. I can understand them being sick of city people who move up here because it's pretty, scalp the trees and leave because it's too redneck and isolated.

I would never live anywhere else though, I am DONE with the city or suburb. Never again over my dead body. I guess you could say I found exactly what I was looking for, an incredible land with tough good people.

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5-star double-rated astronavagatrix earth girl

first check the zoning on fences and then put up the tallest danged fence you can afford..another way to get high fast is ..if you have a tractor..berm around your property and plant the biggest fastest growing trees or shrubs on top of the berm..even a tall enough berm will help.

put locks on your gates..

and good luck

S.s.s.

I am glad I found this thread, I really need to work on securing my yard from the neighbor's kids. I don't want the neighbor calling the law because I yelled at her kids for being in my yard. Don't have money for a fence. I did get them to stay out of my flower beds for a while when they asked what those funny little black balls were. (rabbit manure!) Any ideas?

Just for the record, I was joking about telling the RCMP that I'd bring my "superlong yardstick". I was thinking it, but the officers were pretty blase, so it wasn't a big deal. What I wanted from my neighbor, and I told him as much, is for him to contact me directly about his concerns, at which point he said "I don't have your number". That was several weeks ago, and he's never called me.
I agree on the fence ideas, never can be high enough!

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Go Big or Go Home!!
1 Tim 3:2-3 "Preach the Word. Be ready in season and out. Convince, Rebuke, Exhort with all long-suffering and teaching."

o.O Afraid of the law being called for yelling at someone trespassing on your property?

I'm a clam person but even in a situation where I'm threatened with having the police called just for evicting someone from my land..... I'ld become a royal jerk.

Thinking on it I'ld say talk to the local sheriff and get his input. This gets you legal advice, face time with the local law dog, and maybe a new friend. If he knows the situation it might not be so bad if he ever gets called down to your place.

So, I found the neighbor on Facebook, and just sent him an email...what do you know, we actually talked some stuff out! Turns out he was irritated about hearing our generator run at night (I should have known, the sound can travel quite a ways).
I'll just bet that we don't have much more trouble from here on. He's not a farmer, and he only owns a small 3 acre parcel. Maybe a few beers will be the final nail in this fight, and we can get to the business of living!

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1 Tim 3:2-3 "Preach the Word. Be ready in season and out. Convince, Rebuke, Exhort with all long-suffering and teaching."

I'm surrounded by cowfields and when 1 or more of the farmers calves end up in my horse pasture,I call him and tell him where they are and that they're fine.He'll show up a couple hours later to herd them back.When my little horse gets in his pasture,same thing.Some people have too much time to complain,it seems.He lets me shooy in one of his pastures because it's a good 500yd shot,he just asks I don't shoot when cows are in that particular field...

Because from the OP's posting, water was available.

DUH!

I've watched various relatives and friends who can spread the honey get superb results. As opposed to those with more hostile tendancies.

Keeping kids forever out of a yard is impossible. So don't waste time trying. But you can train them to stay out of the garden (mostly). Especially with some carefull invites to try a fresh tomato or such. Then, instead of being that nasty neighbor down the road you become that nice lady down the road, and that's a lot more pleasant.

The most absurd but effective example of this would be two of my aunts who lived together. Both had their own gardens out back. The one fenced it and such, in order to keep the rabbits out. Never was particularly successfull, but she waged an endless war. The other planted a border of strawberries around her garden and explained to the rabbits that those were for them, but the garden inside was hers. The rabbits ate those strawberries and left her garden alone. Not just once, but for years on end.

When I first moved into Ky I was a bit concerned about the reaction from my neighbors, being the new kid on the block and all. I asked for their advice and opinions, being very careful to drop hints along the way that I might be a bit mentally unstable. (not too difficult in my case ) That strategy worked well for me. I was able to learn a lot and have had very little problems with my neighbors.

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"Nothing so needs reforming as other peoples habits." Mark Twain

this why i hate people to a point ..

back in south maimi ..i live with two roommates in a house on a really nice street there..

we had this older women that lived down the road from us and she used to make out life a liveing hell at times when we first moved in ..

guy aunt was renting us the house for the monthly sum of $.50.oo dollars a month along with the price of giveing her lawn a cut once a week mowing and paying the elec on the house and along keeping it up with painting and other little things that she need done ..for she owned the house outright and she thought that if she keep her nephew around the area she keep him out of trouble with the mom and dad ..and it work at times ..but it was a lot of fun times that went down in that house ..

when we moved in there she told us the first day that we are going to hate miss --- down the street and she going to cause you guys problems ..for she was the head of the local hoa in the area..

well it was not even just past 7 pm that night when the our fun start with the local busy body and her calling the cops on us..

now my two roommates are police officers for the city of maimi and we all got togerther to rent this home from the guy aunt ..for it had a pool in the backyard and his aunt live right behind us and would come over for cookout that we had..plus every one of us was single and haveing a good time in our lifes ..

we she called the police on us and told them that there is a wild party with drugs beening used and that we where doing bad thing..

what the cops found where two very old women and three guys sitting around the table eating drinner .when they looked over the back fence and saw us..the only thing there saw for drugs where three mixed drinks and two beers sitting on the table..

the next thing that they we got hit with was we where haveing to many female guest spending the night and have there cars parked all over the street..

the following that letter was the birthday party on a sat night for one of the guys girl freinds that we had and we where done by 10 pm that night with half the street there for the party and they allso got letters for some other little bs crap that she made up....

we got a letter a week over something that we where doing on that street ..from parking the partol cars to have to many female guest over at night to driveing down the street at odd hours....

right before i left we all went into court about the way the things where going and it was really a funny site at the end when the judge ask her was she going to keep writteing letter about everything that we did on that street and she said yes .for she told the judge that is was to be a 55 and over typle area ..

which it could not be for the area had just gotten rezoned to be a what is called a mixed age group area for the older people where selling out and moveing into other areas. and it did get rezone to be able to sale to a younger family typles ...

the day before i was to transferred out to another area ..they had a vote and kicked her and little group of nazi off the hoa broad there and put in a new board and they did ok i heard after i left..

i was down there for two years of everyday of dealing with this person bs and i got to a point that i really can not stand those typles of people..

then there was the night mom and dad was in the a bad car wreck and markie came flying down the road at two am to get the aunt lou and her husband beeny and take them to the hospital and it went over like a lead ballon and that when all had enough with her and told her off and she said that she would have kicked out of the house ..we just told her to shove it .. for he had ran code three down the street comeing from the other area code three..

a couple of time aunt lou came over and pointed her fringers and shook her head and told to stop acting a like a bunch of sex crazed teenages at times ..but she would laugh when she was saying ..for she and her husband beeny use to laugh at us at times when they come over on a sunday morning to count the female cars from the night before out partying in maimi night life ..

her husband one time told us that do not think that three nights in a row of going out to the local scene and haveing fun that night .. we told him no and he give us a 100 dollar bill to buy drinks with and have some fun with ..

for people that where our landlords they where pretty cool about a lot of things..

I am one of the lucky ones. The western neighbor has a 100 acre cattle farm that he lets us hunt on for keeping an eye on the place (he lives in town), the northern neighbors keep to themselves, but enjoy fresh tomatoes & okra , the eastern neighbors we are friends with (they also love fresh produce) and the neighbors to the south is a company that owns lots of land in the state where they plant trees for logging. We have coon dogs that get on MY nerves at times, so I am constantly apologizing when I see my neighbors. They just laugh and tell me that they can't hear my dogs over their own dogs' barking. let's put it this way, no one comes down our road without ALL of us knowing it. lol We just found out that our northern neighbors is going to be moving. We hope that the new neighbors will be as understanding or I may be the next one on here venting.

We lived on our homestead 24 years. There is one near house right across the road from our garden. The first person who lived there cut down our apple trees, unlocked gates and accused us of stealing. The police were always out here about something. Turned out the old fellow had mental problems.

The next tenets rented seven years and were wonderful neighbors. After that came five years of persecution from people who would let their cat spray our garden! After they left we were cursed at, threatened, had food stolen from the garden, chickens stoled ,loud music played and we were accused of all sorts of things by the next tennets. The worse was when they killed my 12 year old cat. The police were out again but couldn't do a thing as we couldn't prove anything. We never retaliated even though I atleast felt like it. We heard later it was their intention to run us out of here so they could have our place.

Then the worse happened and the tennets bought the house two years ago. For some reason the persecution stopped and they even speak to us occasionally now.The goats got out and that same neighbor came and told my husband they were in the garden!

My husband always said not retalliating would eventually cause these neighbors to give up. No reaction is no fun. I personally think the responsibility of owning a home and actually working for a living settled them down. I forget they are there now.