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Old 07/25/09, 07:12 AM
 
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Hi Cabin ol' pal. Say, this is one time that you and I will disagree. The police will make far more runs and answer more calls at the run down trailer house than they ever will in the McMansion neighborhood.

The trailer house crowd are fine folks, but the run down trailer house crowd is where many of the domestic disturbances will take place, squabbles between neighbors, out of control parties, where parole violators will need to be picked up, improperly licensed/lighted vehicles ticketed, etc. Not just run down trailer homes but I think most folk will know those we speak of.

There is always a lot of controversy over the north end of towns versus the south end of towns and it seems state or city boundaries don't limit it.
And a lot of it is to keep the Mcmansion people happy and protect their property values. The trailer house crowd generally don't frequent the library or the park and generally don't demand more laws. They also don't put pressure on the local gov't to enact things like recycling and other projects.
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Old 07/25/09, 08:43 AM
 
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I am for TERM LIMITS. Go to the poles and VOTE the MONEY grubbers out of office. This state ranks very high on the tax list
PROPERTY TAX, STATE INCOME TAX,SALES TAX, AUTO TAX WITH HIGH LISCENSE FEES. YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN N.C.
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Jay, I think you just described CT. The only thing you left out was the corruption.
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Socialism costs money, it has to come from somewhere, states are not allowed to print their own money like the feds do.
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Old 07/25/09, 10:12 PM
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Socialism costs money, it has to come from somewhere, states are not allowed to print their own money like the feds do.
But apparently it is alright to hand out IOU's in lieu of money.
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Old 07/25/09, 10:17 PM
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Going back to the OP and Real Estate Taxes. You can only hope to find some place where the tax rates are still low. We closed on nearly 50 acres of ag land on July 15th. Our prorated share of the taxes for the rest of the year was $17.16. There are still places.......
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Old 07/25/09, 11:59 PM
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Going back to the OP and Real Estate Taxes. You can only hope to find some place where the tax rates are still low. We closed on nearly 50 acres of ag land on July 15th. Our prorated share of the taxes for the rest of the year was $17.16. There are still places.......

Prorated for 6 months, so a full year would be near $35 for 50 acres. Not bad.
We were doing $47 for 42 acres.

There still exist a few places where land is available for decent prices with low taxes. River frontage, power and phone line at the pavement.
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Socialism costs money, it has to come from somewhere, states are not allowed to print their own money like the feds do.
The 'Feds' do not issue our money, the Federal Reserve Bank does. And we pay them interest on it, which is why our gov't is so far in debt.
Take a look at Ellen Brown's book 'Web of Debt'.
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Old 07/26/09, 07:56 AM
 
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Going back to the OP and Real Estate Taxes. You can only hope to find some place where the tax rates are still low. We closed on nearly 50 acres of ag land on July 15th. Our prorated share of the taxes for the rest of the year was $17.16. There are still places.......
KS isn't bad on AG land either.

We originally paid $82 annually for 40 acres, while my 14.5' duck boat was $87. We now have 80 acres of AG land and it's $169 per year. We're almost finished putting the barn up, so I'm waiting to see what impact that's going to have.

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If this is not the right place move it.
It is that time again in this state.
I know that some states do not have real estate taxes.
I was woundering if the legality or constitutionality has been chalaged.
With the current economical situation of the country and no county or state official giving any hope or thought to this subject and a lot of us are on fixed incomes it isn't getting any easier and there is only so much blood you can get from a rock.
What state are you in, doc?
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Old 07/26/09, 08:43 AM
 
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In Minnesota, we call this "Property Tax." Our property taxes are used to fund county, township, and municipal goverment operations, as well as school districts. Personally, I do not believe one property should be taxed more than another property just because it is worth more. The family living in the McMansion is probably using the same amount of local government services as the family living is a run down trailer house.

BTW, I am also on a fixed income. I earn $xx.xx/hour for 2,080 hours per year exactly...no more, no less.
Property taxes are for generating revenue for the county or city, not for punishing the "rich".

Since the govervment needs the money, if someone pays less, someone else will have to pay more.

Someone with a trailer on two acres, should pay the same, as a two acre estate worth a million and a half?
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http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...StateRank.aspx

Here's a list of states and their property tax rates, didn't see any left out so I guess they all have property taxes including the District of Columbia. I really don't understand the chart as in our state property taxes vary by county.
Bottom line is you're going to pay one way or the other and no matter where you live. Holding off paying high property taxes by moving is a temporary fix. Since you moved there to avoid high property taxes so will many others, especially people on fixed incomes. Slowly as the population increases and the people require more services the property taxes will rise along with it.
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Here, if you add shelters or additional shed space and keep one roof, you don't get taxed additional for it. For this reason, DH is adding his shelter for the tractors, horses, and rabbit shed to the barn that is already here. Also, portable storage buildings, such as Handi-House (what we have in south GA) are not taxed as you pay sales tax on them. This makes an affordable alternative for outbuildings. We got a 12 X 36 for $4000 with 4 windows and two house, cottage doors and made an apartment for the teenagers out if it, and we are not taxed on it as it is considered a portable building.
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Old 07/26/09, 01:31 PM
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Michigan has one too
PA has one too
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... Bottom line is you're going to pay one way or the other and no matter where you live. Holding off paying high property taxes by moving is a temporary fix. Since you moved there to avoid high property taxes so will many others, especially people on fixed incomes. Slowly as the population increases and the people require more services the property taxes will rise along with it.
Not everywhere is growing.

Some areas are shrinking.

Maine peaked it's population at 3 million, today Maine's population is at 1.3 million. Some counties are still shrinking in population here.

In an area where it is growing, it may take 20 or 40 years before the growth is enough to require raising taxes for the city folk's convenience services.

That in itself buys you a few decades with lower taxes.

Around here the ruralness, or 'Un-Organized' status is something the locals hold on to with great effort. Resisting anyone who wants to turn the area into a 'growth zone'.
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Here in Va a structure worth less than $500 does not get taxed. Meaning that one large barn or pole shed will get valued at $2000 but 4 or 5 small buildings or sheds have no tax value at all. Where they get you here is not in valuing how much any particular structure would cost to rebuild (or cost you to build) but they use a 'fair' across the board cost per sqft. Our house is an old house with just rock pier foundation, no insulation, older wiring, tin roof etc, yet is valued at the same cost as a newer house of the same sqft. I have stated to them that cost to rebuild a certain amount of sqft is not the equivalent of the value of that sqft in an existing house due to different construction methods and materials etc. Our farm tax has gone from $1200 a year to $1800 a year in 8 years! They also went from taxes due once a year to split taxes twice a year, I'm assuming so that many people will not notice how much their taxes have increased.
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My parents built a new house 6 years ago and this past reassesment valued their house (just house not land) at $80k higher than their total cost to build! We fought it but got no-where because they use a 'standard' per sqft value regardless of how much you said it cost to build it. We showed contracts and bills but it didn't matter to them. Don't tell me construction costs have increased by %40 since 6 years ago!!
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Old 07/26/09, 09:24 PM
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My parents built a new house 6 years ago and this past reassesment valued their house (just house not land) at $80k higher than their total cost to build! We fought it but got no-where because they use a 'standard' per sqft value regardless of how much you said it cost to build it. We showed contracts and bills but it didn't matter to them. Don't tell me construction costs have increased by %40 since 6 years ago!!
Property value has little to do with cost of construction. It has everything to do with comparable property and recent sales prices thereof in a given area.
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Old 07/26/09, 10:14 PM
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Kentucky also, for over 65... Here's the form PDF you file with your property valuation office in your county of residence.
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Property taxes are for generating revenue for the county or city, not for punishing the "rich".

Since the govervment needs the money, if someone pays less, someone else will have to pay more.

Someone with a trailer on two acres, should pay the same, as a two acre estate worth a million and a half?
You bet! Who knows, the person in the trailer on two acres could be a multi-millionaire and the person in the 1.5 million estate could be a retired, fixed income widow whose husband left her with very little.
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