I had to shoot at a guy tonight

Plus, he has impressive lungs for an oldster. Given that he can say hello and be heard from 75 yards away.

good advice.

Not worth continued snips at yourself.

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my brother-in-law is a deputy with the Searcy county sheriffs office, when I asked him about this alleged shooting, he knew nothing about it nor could he find anyone that did...

Ahhhhh. So now he's a liar, too? Leave the guy alone. He exercised a God given right and stopped a threat. Nobody else was there except for him and the bad guy.

I'm glad I don't either,but if we live a while longer,most all of us will be in that situation, one way or the other.You can choose to protect you and your family or you can choose not to. Choosing not to puts the would be thug in charge of you and your families well being.I will do whatever it takes to keep me in charge, even if I have to kill someone doing just that.Protecting my family.So yes Old Vet,I would have done the same thing you did.The burglar made the choice to put his life in danger, and this time he won,but every now and then, we hear the story of the one that won't so lucky and lost.Looking on the bright side,thats one the rest of us don't have to worry about. EB

A few years back a fellow over in the next county shot two men he caught stealing goods from his barn. He claimed they drew guns; he had a rifle. Took a couple of years to clear him.

Since then Oklahoma has loosened its law; you can shoot now under circumstances forbidden a few years back.

Had I been in Old Vet's place I might have tried to close on the fellow while shouting for hims to come forward with his hands up. It would have given the opportunity for the fellow to make clear his intentions and made for a closer shot too.

Now; In my part of the world when you approached a farmhouse, day or night, if there was no one out in the open to see you coming you stopped some distance from the house, out at the yard gate if there was one, and shouted "Hello the house!" If no one answered you DID NOT go closer.

Ask Jerry Logions the sheriff. He knows along with deputy Bumgarder. Unless your brother in law lyes to you.

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"Ahhhhh. So now he's a liar, too? Leave the guy alone. He exercised a God given right and stopped a threat. Nobody else was there except for him and the bad guy."

I didn't call anyone a liar, nor will I... I said my brother in law knew no one that had heard of this alleged shooting

And with that simple statement did you want everyone to know your brother in law has been off work for a few days and isn't up on the local news, or did you want to plant seeds of doubt about Old Vet's story? it's one or the other.

At least you now know to ask the sheriff and the right deputy, since he supplied the names for you.

Wow.... I first read this story how it was originally posted. Thought about the scenario for a minute, realized that he was probably there causing trouble on Old Vet's privately deeded property with the intent to cause him financial or bodily harm. And realized he was perfectly justified after he stated the man hunched in a threatening manner.

You don't know if he has a gun. It was clear to me that he was up to no good. When confronted with a firearm, he doesn't run, he doesn't raise his hands, he hunches over. That presents justifiable cause in my opinion. Hopefully the sheep that sit on juries would feel the same.

Luckily Old Vet doesn't have to deal with such a scenario of second guessing with his freedom on the line. Instead he gets to be second guessed by a bunch of people who weren't there from far away, anonymously on the internet.

It was a bear wasn't it

Some of you people are acting insane. Are you people serious with all this crap you are spewing?

"flashlight wont shine 75 yards"
Actually, I have a flashlight that will shine up to 400 yards and will blind you if you look at it close up.

"glad I dont live in a place where you have to be armed"
Are you kidding? Thats what the police are for right? Do you carry one around with you? I carry a gun because a policeman is too heavy. If you wait to start protecting yourself until AFTER you are threatened, its a little bit too late then. I carry jumper cables and a jack in my truck. Do I break down and have flats all the time? No. I have jumper cables in my truck and have never ever used them. Should I take them out? It will kind of suck when I DO need them.

"My girlfriend brothers sons cousins roommate is the sheriff and he hasnt heard..."
So, you tried to "call him out", but it didnt work did it? Go tell the guy who told you that, that he is an idiot and then punch yourself in the face. Please.

"What if you would have hit him? you might go to jail"
Well, if he would have hit him, the scumbag would be dead. the end. And dont protect yourself because you might get in trouble? Who are you people? Its better to be judged by twelve than than to be carried by six.

"It may have been a child, or a secret admirer leaving flowers on your tractor, etc"
You people need to grow up. You can let people steal everything you own right up til they snatch the life out of you but some of us do stand up for our rights in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If Im in arkansas and someone is on my property and I feel like my life is threatened, I will take their life. If Im in Texas and someone is breaking into my house, they will meet their maker as he directs them down south for their deeds.

If you are concerned something like this may happen to one of your loved ones who are doing something innocent on someone elses property, you should call each and every one of them right now and tell them that it is wrong to trespass, if they go onto someones property at night and go into their backyard sneaking around some machinery, they may get shot at. Then tell them to punch themselves in the face for being so stupid to have to be told this. Parents, raise your kids up knowing what is right and what is wrong. If they go astray, maybe they will get lucky and the guy shooting at them will miss. Or maybe they wont.

I hope that this guy who Old vet shot at had a life changing event take place while running from those bullets and will never do anything so stupid again. But, more than likely, he is already stealing something else as we speak. I only hope that next time, the bullets find their mark.

You people seem to have lost you self respect and you personal protection of your own freedoms. You all want to hide while big brother govt protects you from all thats bad in the world. Go ahead and hand over all your freedoms so you can feel safe. Keep sucking that govt tit. One day, they will not be there to protect you and you will not know how to stand up for yourself but will lay there like a coward and be gunned down. Or perhaps the govt you cry for to protect you will be the ones baring their teeth at you and you will just lay down and die.

Stand up people, stop crying like babies trying to make those who would do you harm into the victims. He shot at a bad guy. He should be applauded, not torn apart on here. He stood up for his own, and had the guts to do it. He didnt debate and he didnt just lay down and take it. He reacted to a perceived threat. Unless you were standing beside the man when it happened, just shut up because you have no idea.

Old Vet, if you were down here in Hooterville I'd tell you to drag up a chair her on the porch and hand you over a cold beer and we'd eat some of these hot Hooter-Wings while we celebrate your still living with the pleasure of being served by these pretty waitresses. Like the saying, better to be judged by 12 than carried to the grave by 6. I'll tear up the tab in your honor !!

Don't worry about it nathan104. No one on this board will get to me except some that I already know and they will back my story to the hilt. Somebody said If you give up freedoms for safety you deserve neither of them. I cant remember but it sounded like Thomas Jefferson. But some of the people think that is old fashioned and will give all their freedoms for safety. Once they do they have nothing to keep everybody from hurting them. I used to feel sorry about them but now they are just trash that I can sweep under the rug and forget about them.

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51 years ago I was caught in the middle of a armed robbery, no choice on my part they had already made the choice for me and them. No chance to talk about it. Just luck I walked away, sheriff did not even take my weapon. Its not easy afterward. Still see both of them almost every night. I know it is easy to say I would just do so and so, well it is not that easy so if you can avoid it do. Changed me for life mostly in a good way. That made actions in a war situation easier to live with but probably tonight I will do it all over again. Same outcome like a dream you can not change.

I know exactly what you are talking about. Because I see them also. It doesn't get any easier but you can live with that.
The ones that have never been their can argue about what they will do and what should have happened all they want but when it comes down to it they don't know what they are talking about. I do.

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It is interesting that this thread divides each on a predictable line. There are some that love their freedom but want the government (The Sheriff is Government also) to come to their every need. They do not feel that it is their responsibility to protect because they may have to do something that is hard to live with. Let the Sheriff protect us and he is paid to live with less than desirable dreams. It is a recent trend that the sheriff is the savior and not there to call the cornier. The constitution is based on each and everyone acting as the sheriff would if he had been on the scene. NO where in our constitution does it even come close to a person
• Not being responsible for their actions. This is who every was at the tractor and Old Vets decision to shoot.
• Expecting others to stand up for your freedom while you coward under your bed. (The Sheriff does not know your farm and is arriving in less than desirable circumstances.
• It is a horrible thing to take a life but it is more horrible to be responsible for someone dying because of you being a coward. (Every criminal started off small and ended up having built on steps in our judicial system to where they are.) If every time a criminal broke the law in a community there was a cry against the criminal with no acceptance they would either change or move. Think if the Perpetrator of the crime read this series what would he conclude. You are not only feel that he was right but maybe Old Vet should be prosecuted for being mean.
When I was eighteen and traveling through KY I was pulled over by a Highway Patrol. Since I had never been pulled over before I started to get out of the car. I looked in the rearview mirror to see the passenger patrolman with his gun out pointed at me and the driver in a tactical stance. I had not been trained but COMMON SENSE said put your hands on the steering wheel and spread your fingers. tThey checked me out were nice (The gun never left the back of my head) and let me go. You might say they were wrong but one of theirs had been gunned down and a man somewhat my description was on the loose and I was a stranger. If I had done anything to provoke them they would have shot and been justified shooting an innocent man.

Thread is closed at the request of the OP.

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