Tell me WHY I should own land?

If that is the standard, I certainly hope that I never see you complain about eminent domain.

I believe the definition of ownership you believe in already has a name, Feudalism. Read up on it. Kind of stagnates society.

It is true, you only own land as long as you pay taxes on it. But you do own it for as long as you keep sending the money. You can do anything you want on it right?

It would be a scary society if property taxes weren't paid. Take Pennsylvania; by your definition, all of Pennsylvania could still belong to one person, the oldest son of William Penn and so on. So without taxes, today one man owns an entire state, the gggggggggreatgrandson of Mr. Penn.

So what are you going to do? Pay Mr. Penn some money for you're own little acre? Then that land will be yours forever? Only if Mr. Penn is a complete idiot. No, Penn is going to LEASE that land to you. When you control the market, you don't create competitors for short-term gain. Why would I sell an acre for $20,000 when I can lease it and make $120,000 over a lifetime and my children make another $500,000 over their lifetime, and so on?

I might have ideas for a ranch but little granny won't sell her 2000 acres beside me. Great, ranch never developes, meat never gets produced, less workers, less work, less jobs, less economy, less GDP simply because there is no real reason for granny to sell out. Now if that land is costing her $10,000 a year to keep, things change.

So what have we learned? You're money is either going to go to schools or to one rich man. Your choice.

And people who buy large tracks of land near the rural burbs of cities and expect to be able to aford it their entire life are just stupid.

Well what is the point of owning it if someone can take it away..duh...in the meantime i own it and i can use it..i produce a huge amount of my own food, i live in private gardens that i can enjoy whenever I want, i breathe clean fresh air that the trees i've planted have produced and i drink pure water from our own well..guess that is the only point i need

What he said.

I see you misunderstood what I said.

The OP had said: "I am also convinced that the majority of our land, is STOLEN, that it really belongs to the Natives and the enviroment that we robbed it from."
My point is that the white settlers didn't always steal the land. Sometimes they purchased it. And some Indians, like Will Rogers understood the value of owning land. He advised others to buy land.

As for the entire basis of the OP's argument that the land actually belongs to the natives, I must ask why he is still here? Why hasn't he returned to the lands his ancestors left to come to America? Rather than screaming at the rest of us for being crooks, he could man up and do something purposeful to restore the Indians land. He could deed his home to the first Indian he meets, and high tail it off to Europe, or wherever else his kin came from.

In fact, using the OP's argument about land being robbed, millions of American could lay claim to the parts of the world where their ancestors lived before coming to America. Many came here after being driven from their ancestral lands by war, oppression, religious persecution. Every bit as bloody and unjust as what the Indians suffered. Why isn't the OP upset about that?

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Sorry but I couldn't just stand by.............
Anyway, the natural order of things, simply:

Winners get the spoils and control the loosers fate.
Always been that way, always will.

But those "purchases" were, more often than not, at the point of a gun. Figuratively, where not literally.

Which is how it goes. And how it has always been. But I do think that people who own land that was taken from others by force or threat of force, even if compensation was made, are hypocrites if they complain about eminent domain.

Not saying that's you.

Does it make it somehow better, or nobler, for a group of people in a community living arrangement (commune) to live on 'stolen land'? compared to just a bunch of individuals? Don't communes pay property taxes?

To be totally free, a person would own nothing. Possessions tie you down. My absolute freest years of my life was when I owned nothing. But, that life of sleeping under the stars only works while your young... when you get older, a nice garden, a plumb well treed orchard, a pond full of fish, and a warm and secure home, is to simply die for.

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If you owned land your chickens would never have to cross the road.

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if you never own land, or at least rent, you depend on someone else for everything you consume..that is just downright silly...when if you have land you can plant your own food, create your own energy, drink pure water..what is the point here ??