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Old 06/19/09, 12:07 PM
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Pan Boiled Fox

2 large onions roughly chopped
Boned or still-on-the-bone legs of one medium to large fox (cut into 8
pieces if still on the bone)
6 medium sized carrots (cut into thick inch long batons)
6 medium sized courgettes (cut into thick inch and a half long batons)
(with flowers if available)
1 tea cup olive oil
2 bay leaves
4-6 whole pepper corns
2-3 pieces of allspice
2-3 lemons
2 large eggs
Sea salt (fairly liberal amounts) and ground black pepper
Water

METHOD

In a large saucepan gently brown the onions in olive oil. Add the meat and cook in the onion/oil mix for a few minutes. Add the bay leaves, allspice, pepper corns, salt, ground pepper,juice of one lemon, carrots and a few cups of water to the pan. Cover with a lid and simmer for half an hour stirring occasionally. Add the courgettes. Add more water if necessary. Cook for about another half-hour at a slow but steady boil.

Beat the eggs and mix with remaining lemon juice. Gradually ladle off all the hot cooking liquor from the pan and carefully beat it in with the eggs.

Return to pan. Serve with hunks of good rustic bread to soak up the juices.
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Old 06/19/09, 02:49 PM
 
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Unless they are running everywhere (and in most places they are not), Foxes are an important part of our ecosystem, so simply killing them is a complete waste, if they can be deterred sucessfully with other methods. Foxes are nearly extinct in some areas.

Sure they love chickens, but will certainly eat plentiful wild rabbits, field mice, feral cats, etc., if that is their best option.

A good hot wire perimeter fence, which you should have anyway, will almost always send them on to easier picking.
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Old 06/19/09, 10:02 PM
 
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Not 100% certain but think red foxes aren't native to America but more than likely native to Europe?
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Old 06/20/09, 06:52 AM
 
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Not 100% certain but think red foxes aren't native to America but more than likely native to Europe?
They are native.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_fox
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Old 06/20/09, 10:02 PM
 
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cowboy joe
that varies from state to state. in UT they are unprotected as they are not native. they may be taken year round.
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don't believe everything you read on wikipedia. reds may be native north of the great lakes/st lawrence but south of that there are records of introduction from NY to GA during the late colonial period. the grey fox prefers heavier cover not suitable for social pack hunting. the red was introduced for this reason. the loss of the red is no net loss in most areas of the USA since it is a nonnative species. that said the primary reason for the loss of the red is the spread of the coyote. they intentionally target them as a competitive species the same way wolves target coyotes & dogs. i have personally witnessed this event on the Base. when i first moved here a decade ago there were no coyotes and reds were so common they walked about in daylight. when i moved back after a year in okinawa, a few coyotes had just moved in and the reds were rare. after a few years on recruiting duty I came back and there are now multiple packs of coyotes & zero reds on the base. on a side note, the native greys are just booming & cottontails seem to be coming back a bit.
also wild reds get nowhere near 30#. there are several sites much more reliable than wikipedia, all of which have found it impossible to locate even a 20# wild red (14-17# for todds and 12-15 for vixens are the norm). fur farmed reds get over 20# but they also come in cool colors that aren't really good for long term survival like blue, silver & platinum. also a red doesn't remotely reach 45 MPH. top end is closer to about 38MPH. sighthounds top out between 40-45 depending on breeding and close on reds quickly & easily. reds lose them in the turns and reaching cover (witnessed this firsthand too and their turning ability is AMAZING to see).
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