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Old 02/28/09, 12:19 AM
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I wonder what the situation would be that would require you to hire someone "blind", without recommendations or references?

As a group, licensed contractors have a good reputation, too.

I have visited with many Amish and Mennonites across the country. There are rich ones, poor ones. There are hard working ones and there are those that take a slower pace. I've seen some that are talented at training horses and a few that were either incompetent or cruel.

Within the Amish community there are some that are talented barn builders. There are also some that are good at stapling house trailers together. There are some that are good at making Swiss cheese and some that don't know a curd from a 7urd.

Last summer a group of Amish boys got drunk, borrowed a pickup truck, ran it off the road and rolled it over, killing one of the boys. Tragic accident. But, boys will be boys, no matter their religion. They are human. They are individuals.

I don't want to be locked out of a construction job because I don't belong the the right church or because someone with less experience is automatically bestowed with "fine reputation".
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Old 03/02/09, 05:46 PM
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Only Mennonites have sawmills and the ability to cut out the middleman? Take off your blinders. Open your scope of view. Don't assume that just because they are Mennonites that they are automatically better and or cheaper. That is a broad generalization.
haypoint, I know this is going to be hard to swallow, but I was just saying he had a sawmill and yes, indeed, the middle man would be cut out. that is a good thing in this case, since I don't want to pay the middle man.

Is this the only man in the world who has a connection to a sawmill in their community? no one said such.

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All the people I know that are called Brother attend church. I know many hippocrates that attend church. Therefore, using your methods of selection, Brother Williams is a hippocrate. Is that fair?.
I have a brother, he doesn't attend church. I do call him brother still.

btw, are you judging me for judgining, or just for prejudging?

and as far as hippocrates:
Hippocrates was a Greek physician born in 460 BC on the island of Cos, Greece. He became known as the founder of medicine and was regarded as the greatest physician of his time. He based his medical practice on observations and on the study of the human body. He held the belief that illness had a physical and a rational explanation. He rejected the views of his time that considered illness to be caused by superstitions and by possession of evil spirits and disfavor of the gods.

Now, if you actually meant hypocrite, by all means, you are correct, I am a full blown one. In fact, all Christians I know are, churches and bars are full of em, as will be heaven and hell. But this isn't a doctrine debate, we can discuss that elsewhere if you like.

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In support of our new president, I will only buy pancake mix from Aunt Jemima and rice from Uncle Ben. Is that stupid or what?
Did you know Jemima is actually an OT name? See Job 42 for details.

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Prejudging can never be a good thing. It can't be good. It is judging before looking at the individual, that's where the "pre" comes from.
On the contrary, wouldn't it have been nice if those on Germany had prejudged Hitler, if men and women today would prejudge each situation before jumping into, if some many would prejusge their standings before making fools of themselves, etc. Prejudging is a great tool. Everyday, millions over the world prejudge all types of situations and do certain things, such as hypothesize, and consider scenarios, all acts and forms of prejudging.

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To pick anyone based on their religion, color, age, sex or national origin sets the human rights movement back a hundred years.
Good, let us roll back the clock. I pick my saviour based on his race (Jewish). I also chose my wife based on her age and sex. I chose my church based on religion. And I choose my Latin American restaraunt based on national origin (Mexican, and boy can Bassilio cook!).

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All you women, get back in the kitchen and fix your man some supper. You black folk should get back out there to them cotton fields. You Baptist carpenters get out of the way, we've got some Mennonites on their way over to build that barn.
My wife did accomplish that, and what a job she did. In fact, I will tell her such (again). On the slave issue, try reading I Timothy 6, not that I expect it to help you. And in regards to Baptists, we trace our roots back to a lot of the anabaptists as well (as do Mennonites). I just wasn't able to find a Baptist carpenter who had as a good a price and as secure a reference as the local Mennonite builder.

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That's a sick way to look at people and I hope you'll rethink your prejudice.
Are you prejudging me without knowing me? Shame, shame. I think that is a sick way to look at people and I hope you'll rethink your prejudice.
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