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Old 01/22/09, 02:18 PM
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Well, when I voted there were more than three quarters of a million votes before me and the poll is running 97% in favor of it being an individual right.

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Old 01/22/09, 02:18 PM
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All I can say is I hope and pray that a situation never occurs in your life that would force you to change your mind.
Sadly, it has. When I was in college, a drug dealer lived next door to me and pulled a gun on me and a friend. THAT is one reason why I think no one should have guns. So not everyone reacts to those types of situation seeing validation for gun rights--I see it as reasons for stricter gun laws and harsher penalties!
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Old 01/22/09, 02:23 PM
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Sadly, it has. When I was in college, a drug dealer lived next door to me and pulled a gun on me and a friend. THAT is one reason why I think no one should have guns. So not everyone reacts to those types of situation seeing validation for gun rights--I see it as reasons for stricter gun laws and harsher penalties!
We have had laws for a long time that don't allow criminals (ie, drug dealers) to have guns. How well did it work in your case? I prefer to protect myself and my family on my own. I guess others prefer to let something written in a statute book protect them.
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Old 01/22/09, 02:25 PM
 
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I just believe that NO one needs hand guns or semi automatic weapons. Rifles, when used for hunting, I don't have as much of a problem with (although I am anti-hunting, but that is a whole other topic! LOL).

No offense intended but you don't sound like you are very knowledgeable on the topic.

It would be great if the dilemmas of living together in a society could all be solved with our hearts but ultimately the cold hard reality of logic needs to be applied.
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Old 01/22/09, 02:36 PM
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When you have a spare 10 minutes, watch this video. You might be surprised by what semi-auto actually means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30

Actually I was already aware of what semi automatic versus automatic weapons are--I did watch the video though, but my opinion is the same.
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Old 01/22/09, 02:37 PM
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I just believe that NO one needs hand guns or semi automatic weapons. Rifles, when used for hunting, I don't have as much of a problem with (although I am anti-hunting, but that is a whole other topic! LOL).
You certainly have a right to your opinion, and as long as you are not rying to force it on me, we will get along just fine. I have freinds who are vegetarian, and we are more than happy to adjust our menu to suit their needs.

Having said that, I find a handgun comes in handy around my homestead. It is not always easy to keep a rifle or shotgun handy, so a pistol I can get to when needed comes in handy.

My kids and I also enjoy many hours plinking at the range. Guns are only evil and scary if you don't know them.

Finally, many hunting rifles and shotguns are semi-auto meaning that each pull of the trigger fires one shot. Skeet shooters tend to like it because this action reduces felt recoil. Deer hunters like it for a quick humane second shot, so they don't have wounded game in the woods.

I hope you can see that we are not all radicals.
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Old 01/22/09, 02:43 PM
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You certainly have a right to your opinion, and as long as you are not rying to force it on me, we will get along just fine. I have freinds who are vegetarian, and we are more than happy to adjust our menu to suit their needs.

Having said that, I find a handgun comes in handy around my homestead. It is not always easy to keep a rifle or shotgun handy, so a pistol I can get to when needed comes in handy.

My kids and I also enjoy many hours plinking at the range. Guns are only evil and scary if you don't know them.

Finally, many hunting rifles and shotguns are semi-auto meaning that each pull of the trigger fires one shot. Skeet shooters tend to like it because this action reduces felt recoil. Deer hunters like it for a quick humane second shot, so they don't have wounded game in the woods.

I hope you can see that we are not all radicals.
I am not trying to force my believes on anyone--just stating my opinion and I don't think all pro-gun people are radicals--not even a majority! I just think that there is a clear distinction between having the RIGHT to do/have something and it being morally/ethically sound to do/have those same things. Just because I have a right to do something doesn't mean it is the correct thing to do.
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Old 01/22/09, 03:47 PM
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as long as the citizens are armed it goes a long way towards keeping the government polite. And again the criminals will still be armed regardless of laws. Criminals are criminals because they don't follow the laws! with that said you have folks that will become criminals with the gun bans because they will not give up their weapons. Well my arsenal is for hunting and I don't own any hand guns or assault weapons doesn't mean I wouldn't mind having some.I need to be practical with my money. doesn't mean I cant protect myself with those said hunting weapons just means that there are better options for self defense. Why should I or any other law abiding citizen be restricted from owning them.
as far as the constitution none of those Ideas are outdated and none of the meanings of the words has changed the amendments where covered in the main body I belive they where added for the most part to clarify and limit what the constitution already granted and guaranteed. those who attack the language of the constitution as well as the nature and intent are the lowest of the low. they would upsurp the powers granted but deny those rights that are guaranteed. the constitution is a contract and should you only
wish to pick and choose in my mind you void the whole thing.
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Old 01/22/09, 03:58 PM
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All you have to do is read what the founding fathers said about the 2ndA to see that they wanted everyone armed. This was to be a last line of defense against an oppressive or tyrannical government. Kind of a moot point now since we've changed from a republic to a democracy. Now the majority can vote away the rights of the minority.

BTW, is this an old poll? The date in the address line says November 2007.
I think you have that backwards (minority can vote away the rights of the majority)

majority rules has not been in effect for a long time!
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Old 01/22/09, 04:07 PM
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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will end up plowing for those who did not." -Anonymous

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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will end up plowing for those who did not." -Anonymous

JMHO,
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I belive that was said by Thomas Jefferson

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson

How can there be any question as to what the 2nd ammendment was intended? Maybe one from the guy who wrote the dang constitution?

Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
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