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Old 03/04/09, 10:00 PM
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I've been meaning to update this thread!

I emailed the McCormick-International Harvester Collection Reference Archivist at the Wisconsin Historical Society with more pictures. It is newer then we thought. It has been fun uncovering everything to do with the plow. My husband was able to find the IHC logo, it is a lot smaller then I thought it would be, it was by the serial numbers. Below is the archivist's information and a few more photos of the IHC logo.

<<Thanks for the email and your interest in the McCormick-International Harvester Collection. The photographs you sent were very helpful in identifying the plow. Based upon two of the parts numbers I was able to find in the photographs, PO2613 & PO1899A I was able to determine that the plow in question is a 3-4 Furrow No. 10 Tractor Plow. It may also have been known as a No. 10 Little Genius or No. 10 Genius Tractor Plow, these are two common brand names that it went by.

This plow was manufactured from 1934 through 1955, yours (based upon one of those parts numbers) was built sometime during or after 1939. It was built at International Harvester’s Canton Works in Canton, Illinois. Unfortunately I do not have any statistics on how many of these plows were built.

I hope this information is useful to you. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.>>

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Old 03/04/09, 10:10 PM
 
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Could you please get me the numbers off of the plow shares for me?? The share is the piece under the moldboard. It comes to a point on the inside end. Thanks, Bill
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Thank you for the update!!!!!!! I was thinking about this plow just a few days ago.

I really appreciate your thread about this plow. Like I have said before, I have learned alot!!!!!!

Clove
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Old 03/05/09, 11:26 AM
 
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BTW, is that blue paint on the plow??? Blue paint would be odd for an International.
Their implements were a duller red & a dark blue paint for many years, into the 1950's.

Just like a lot don't realize, Case implements from back then were not red/orange/cream colors, but actually _green_.

I agree the sticker is a newer one than I was expecting, this must be a 1940's or so model plow.

Four bottom is just huge for that period - 2 or 3 bottom was common for the ag tractors of that era; for that part of the country no doubt it was pulled by a crawler.

Surprised I got the brand right from the initial photos, the hitch looked just like an International, but the crank was puzzling.

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If my memory serves me at least ok and this one is by a thread, I think I remember that the plow works in Canton, IL were the firm of Parr & Ohrendorf (sp) when IH bought them out. aka the P & O Plow Works. IH bought them, I think, because they made a good plow and IH liked the patents. Maybe someone that knows IH history can shed some light on this. Hellllllp!
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Old 03/05/09, 09:21 PM
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Could you please get me the numbers off of the plow shares for me?? The share is the piece under the moldboard. It comes to a point on the inside end. Thanks, Bill
Absolutely Bill, I'll look for that tomorrow, I didn't see any other numbers but I don't think we looked under the moldboard.

Here is a better picture of the plow, had a bit of a sun glare problem on the other pictures.

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Thank you for the update!!!!!!! I was thinking about this plow just a few days ago.

I really appreciate your thread about this plow. Like I have said before, I have learned alot!!!!!!

Clove
Clove, I wish you were closer I'd give you the plow
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Old 03/06/09, 11:53 AM
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Farmerboybill: I found two numbers but I'm not sure they are the exact numbers you wanted, my husband said he may have to lift it up a little with his tractor to really look under there.

The numbers he found were: 0-304-HO and 0-348
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Old 03/06/09, 12:48 PM
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I think maybe I found the number it says: soft-center 0556
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steel wheels tell that it is a pre WW2 when companies couldn't get rubber and probably stopped using it after the war instead of converting it to rubber tires..
then again see if you can tell if the points are cast iron or steel, steel points didn't come into heavy use til after 1950, so maybe someone kept and used it right on the the home farm so steel wheels didn't matter. those actually look like steel in the picture as they are more pointed than cast iron used to be.
don't pull it to the antique road yet, there are many of them still around. wish i owned it, i'd get the wheels off the ground and paint it up.

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actually the plow in question, is i believe a 4 x 16" international easy lift ??? I think thats what my grandpa called his could be a different name been along time. its iron wheels are made to pick the plow shears up at the end of the field furrow then turn the tractor around pull a rope when starting again and it drops or trips the plow to start another furrow but all aside if it is 16" wing depending on the soil type & how deep your plowing (farming that is) it only takes roughly about 20 hp per plow so now with that said with todays modern equipment you could pobably get away with around a 70 or 75 hp tractor and it would do a good job. go over to ytmag to implement form paste the photo and ask hugh mackay he is very knowledgable on equipment like this.
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Old 03/06/09, 08:50 PM
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Clove, I wish you were closer I'd give you the plow
I am honored with your statement!!!

It might be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on HT, and I have been here since late 1999.

I would love to have a plow like that. It is a cool piece of agricultural history. Any chance you are heading to Indiana with an empty trailer?

On second thought, I would have to buy a tractor that could pull a beauty like that, and my wife would be none too happy. For some reason, she just doesn't think that plows or plowing activity is all that cool.

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Old 03/06/09, 09:08 PM
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you folks kill me .
nice old plow with many many years of real tilling left in it .

sorry the cant believe anyone plowed with it just seems so wrong to me .
the first plow I bought was a oliver 3/14 trip not much different from the one you have I had to drop it down to a two bottom to pull with my wd45 but then found a 1940s vintage 3/14 snap couple plow for the old beast ( I was plowing with it last weekend)
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