Timber Prices

-TWO- · #21 01/04/09, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanriver

OK I was looking for some way to genirate a little money from the farm if my kids lose their jobs , Scrap metal down timber is way down cows and calfs way down no market here for firewood . Ckecking into the cross ties and also checking on mining props use to be a maket for those here .

You may want to look into your local pulp market, As I mentioned above, pulp prices are high. For anyone with timber land. Now is a good time to thin & cull your trees. Small diameter logs, cull logs, are bringing a premium price p/ton for pulp. Not to mention, your forest land will benefit from it. Better stand health. Fire reduction. Increasing the growth rate of the trees you leave. The faster they add girth, the more they increase in volume (MBF). In the long run, that means $ in your pocket. Now, there's a win, win, win, situation for you.

**clovis** · #22 01/04/09, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by -TWO-

The are several factors that influence the price of domestic building materials opposed to imports. 1. Cheap raw materials, The Canadian & Chinese governments all but give timber to their lumber industries.
In the US, millions of acres of Federal timber can't be accessed due to... 2. Enviromental restrictions. In China, they don't exist. Canada, has very few compared to the US. Most folks don't realise how much these restrictions drive timber prices up. Federal, State & privately owned. 3. Cheap labor, in Chinas case.

Don't forget exchange rates on currency. A strong US dollar is good for importing.

There is also the fact that the Chinese artificially peg the yuan to the US dollar, making their goods even cheaper. We could be for a rude awakening if the Chinese ever floated the yuan on the open market.

Clove

Sawmill Jim · #23 01/04/09, 11:34 AM

-Two- Loggers in this end of Tn an Ky are in a hurt anyway they turn

Loggers are paying two to five dollars per ton for pulp to the land owner

In ky workers comp can run more than pay role

I think the only thing keeping things going is the tye market An the mills that cut not the best lumber are having a problem selling wood .Cherry that once was bringing 3.50 bf an up last i sold was 1.00bf in the log .Got no prices yet this year

Here if log price an tye price drops we gunna need a bail out or goodwill line

Tree's do start to loose value if they aren't harvested when they get mature last place i cut should of been cut atlest five years ago . Oldmanriver if tye price stays good you can get your self a mill an put em to work

Old Vet · #24 01/04/09, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen in SOKY

And yet, I went to Lowe's last week, picked up 2X4X8's from Canada, 1/4" Luan from China and I'm not sure the origin of the drywall or OSB subfloor. How on earth can it be cheaper to import plywood & dimensional lumber than to manufacture here? Canada maybe, but shipping plywood from China?

Another reason is the cheap labor and lack of labor rules. It is not shipped to China but to a floating factory ship in the ocean and made into plywood then shipped back less than 40 miles to the coast.

Sawmill Jim · #25 01/04/09, 06:59 PM

Old Vet and all the scrap is dumped overboard same with steel .