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12/14/08, 07:59 PM
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That's funny I only heard The Dixie Chicks trash BW not the country.
BW's the one that trashed the country and he did it in and out of the country. I am not a fan I just think its wrong to punish them for speaking their mind. Last time I looked that was one of our rights. But last time I looked privacy was one of them to but not any more.
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Nothing has been taken away from anybody. I am still doing exactly what I have been for the last 40 years, and plan on doing the same way into the future also. No "So Called Rights" have been taken away from one single person.
Maybe a few simple inconveniences put in place but this is after all the 21st century and NOT the 1800s~!!!!!
Move on, nothing here at all but a lot of nothing to complain about.
and when you complain about BW in another country you are ALSO condemning THIS country and are too chicken to say so while IN this country but have to take the cowards way out and do it not on US Soil, like those dumb Dixie Chicks did.~! Period~!
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12/14/08, 08:07 PM
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Um, so what was the movie about? The song is sort of about vigelante-ism isn't it? Is that what the movie is about?
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12/14/08, 08:46 PM
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Who is BW?
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12/14/08, 08:51 PM
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I was wondering too.
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12/14/08, 09:05 PM
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Maybe Barry White trashed the country?
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12/15/08, 06:23 AM
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Toby Keith has gone to Iraq to entertain the troops, if I'm not mistaken, so he's a patriot :-)
....Saw this movie listed on Cinemax yesterday but we didn't watch it...maybe will check it out...
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12/15/08, 07:07 AM
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Since we're talking about the politics of country music stars, I feel compelled to add that Willie Nelson was one of the well-intentioned fools who helped bring about the slaughter for food of horses in the US. Not a great move for the horses of the country.
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Really Lisa? from the threads I read on HT about when they closed the last slaughter plant here in Illinois, most of the horse owners were the ones upset the most of it closing. Seems now hundreds if not thousands of horses are just being dumped at horse campgrounds in Southern Illinois and KY, (Land Between the Lakes) etc. I guess the horses are starving to death now. I really can't comment on how humanely the slaughter plant put down the animals, ...but starving to death in a strange place, seems a pretty bad deal.
I have not seen the movie, nor do I really want to. It's not that I'm not a patriot or anything, I do like some of his songs. I think he can sing, but not sure if he can act all that well. I don't want my opinion of him to change. I've seen what happens sometimes when an actor goes singer, or vice~versa, (and it's not pretty) It's kinda like tapioca pudding, ...it looks good, but then you start to taste all of the lumps. (I hate lumpy puddin...)
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12/15/08, 07:17 AM
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Who is BW? 
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...Babe Winkleman? but the last time I heard from him, he was dipping his pole in the backwaters of the swamps of Lousianna, smelling like soured canned tuna
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12/15/08, 07:22 AM
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Barbara Walters?
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12/15/08, 09:18 AM
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Slev,
When the horse slaughter house was operating in DeKalb, Illinois, horse neglect actually increased because owners knew they could always send their neglected horses to slaughter. Animal neglect is a crime, there are laws to protect animals - they just don't seem to be enforced or taken seriously.
Horses are companion animals like cats and dogs and should not be treated as livestock.
Enforcing animal neglect laws, establishing hay banks similar to human food banks, and addressing the problem of indiscriminate and excessive breeding would be the intelligent solution.
RF
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12/15/08, 09:34 AM
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Toby Keith is a Democrat. You can be a Democrat and a Patriot. Get real people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_119930.html
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12/15/08, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Slev
Really Lisa? from the threads I read on HT about when they closed the last slaughter plant here in Illinois, most of the horse owners were the ones upset the most of it closing. Seems now hundreds if not thousands of horses are just being dumped at horse campgrounds in Southern Illinois and KY, (Land Between the Lakes) etc. I guess the horses are starving to death now. I really can't comment on how humanely the slaughter plant put down the animals, ...but starving to death in a strange place, seems a pretty bad deal.
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No, not really.  I accidentically left out one critical word in my post. I meant to write:
Since we're talking about the politics of country music stars, I feel compelled to add that Willie Nelson was one of the well-intentioned fools who helped bring about the BANNING of slaughter for food of horses in the US. Not a great move for the horses of the country.
Duh to me.
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12/15/08, 09:57 AM
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Slev,
When the horse slaughter house was operating in DeKalb, Illinois, horse neglect actually increased because owners knew they could always send their neglected horses to slaughter. Animal neglect is a crime, there are laws to protect animals - they just don't seem to be enforced or taken seriously.
Horses are companion animals like cats and dogs and should not be treated as livestock.
Enforcing animal neglect laws, establishing hay banks similar to human food banks, and addressing the problem of indiscriminate and excessive breeding would be the intelligent solution.
RF
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Hey Rocky, I hate disagreeing with you, but I have to on this one. I love my horses dearly, but I do believe they are livestock. No livestock should ever be neglected or abused but I do think that there should be an option to slaughter a horse. They can still slaughter a horse for animal food...just not for human consumption. That doesn't make sense to me.
From what I've heard around the country there's been a large increase in horse neglect cases, which I think is caused by the hay shortage of last year, the economy, poor breeding practices but also the banning of slaughter.
It's something I guess I'm a little hypocritical about. Would I let one of myhorses go to slaughter? No way. But I would trailer an old or crippled horse to the local lion zoo and have them humanely euthanize my horse and then feed it to the cats. As long as they go painlessly and without fear...I'm okay with it.
Oh yeah...I think they should also need to change the shipping requirements for horses bound for slaughter. Horses are not cattle and should never be hauled like cattle.
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12/15/08, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Slev
Really Lisa? from the threads I read on HT about when they closed the last slaughter plant here in Illinois, most of the horse owners were the ones upset the most of it closing. Seems now hundreds if not thousands of horses are just being dumped at horse campgrounds in Southern Illinois and KY, (Land Between the Lakes) etc. I guess the horses are starving to death now. I really can't comment on how humanely the slaughter plant put down the animals, ...but starving to death in a strange place, seems a pretty bad deal.
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Yes it was a very bad day for the horses in this country when the Processing plants stopped. Now way more neglect, way more horses being starved, and the price of horses are at give away prices. Oh there STILL is plants in Canada, and Mexico, BUT now those same horses endure more suffering, longer traveling times, and who KNOWS just what kind of Horrible treatment once into Mexico. Nice going animal rights people~!
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12/15/08, 11:40 AM
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"Beer for My Horses" tells the story of two best friends that work together as deputies in a small town. The two defy the Sheriff and head off on an outrageous road trip to save the protagonist's girlfriend from drug lord kidnappers. Co-stars comedian Rodney Carrington and Ted Nugett.
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12/15/08, 01:51 PM
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Good grief. To answer the OP..... good movie, we laughed our rears off. Toby plays a great straight man to Rodney Carrington's goofy character. LOVED the singin' in the bathroom scene!
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12/16/08, 05:18 AM
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Was that really him singing? If so he sounded great! Movie is ok, kinda like them 'Larry The....' they keep pumping out, amusing in spots, but not gonna make the all time great movies list by a long shot.
I like a lot of Kieth's songs, the man has been blessed with more talent than any ten people have a right to expect. Seems a little too money hungry for me, but I guess you really can't hold that against him in this country.
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12/17/08, 12:59 AM
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Arabian Knight,
Toby Keith is a card carrying Democrat...good to see you're finally changing your tune...
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Just had to go from a question about a movie to politics. Toby Keith might be a card carrying Democrat. He never supported the Iraq War, but doesn't apoligize for being "Patriotic". He supports the troops. Now the other part. Keith is a "conservative democrat who is sometimes embarressed for his party". He endorsed George W. Bush in 2004. He says "politics is what's killing America".
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12/17/08, 08:10 AM
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Toby Keith has a voice that I think would be beautiful in opera, or the Josh Groban type of music.. that is very rare in country music.. sometimes I wish he would venture out into some other areas, I'd be a fan.. I do like some of his music, especially the patriotic music that he does.. but the 'bar room' kind of music isn't for me. That's just me.. I'm old and pretty much past that lol..
will still have to see if I can find that movie listed...
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12/17/08, 10:17 AM
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Was that really him singing? If so he sounded great! Movie is ok, kinda like them 'Larry The....' they keep pumping out, amusing in spots, but not gonna make the all time great movies list by a long shot.
I like a lot of Kieth's songs, the man has been blessed with more talent than any ten people have a right to expect. Seems a little too money hungry for me, but I guess you really can't hold that against him in this country.
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Yeah, Rodney used to be a country singer before he discovered comedy singing. Sorta like Cletus T Judd, but much, much more rauchier. My husband and I both get a kick out of him :-)
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