Epa Proposed Livestock Tax

This might encourage vegetarianism and lessen the negative effects of the meat industry - sounds like something I would support.

This rule is put forth by a Bush administration appointed EPA. Now tell me how one is better than the other.

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As I understand this it is an EPA proposal to tax anybody emitting over 100 ton of carbon a year. Besides livestock operations they could tax you if your house is large, watch out Al Gore, who knows what this would effect.

They've been trying to get set up to sell carbon credits, saying carbon is stored in no till farm ground and ironically properly managed pasture land. Sounds like another brilliant plan to me.

What I don't understand is how this will reduce greenhouse gases. Under this legislation, hospital, factories and other large buildings will likely qualify for a permit. So, if the hospital doesn't apply for the permit, will they shut it down? So, basically, the hospital/factory/farmer will be operating with the same emissions before and after applying for the permit, except now they will pay for a permit (tax). Sounds like just another way for the government to raise more money for whatever other schemes they have planned.

I don't buy the whole global warming nonsense anyway. I think it's just part of a natural cycle over centuries. I do believe that we should be as enviromentally responsible as possible but forest fires have been happening since the beginning of time and millions of buffalo burped and farted their way across the plains for centuries and the world seemed just fine.

Thanks for the tread to the stopepa. What a scary thought. I don't have any problem decreasing our milking herd to 25 cows. Of course that would mean no youngstock so I guess we'd have to go down to about 10. Funny... we'd be able to live off of that but there wouldn't be much surplus to send to the dairy. If we little guys take care of each other we'll be ok...let the rest of them buy from China. I'm thinking it won't be grade A Angus Beef.

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup

What some are missing is that the bureaucracy grinds on irrespective of who is in charge. The Clean Air Act Amendments were passed in 1990. Since then the EPA and local air districts have been implementing provisions to reduce criteria pollutants (organic gases, oxides of nitrogen, oxides of sulfur, carbon monoxide, and particulate matter) and hazardous air pollutants.

Enter the great global warming swindle and court action and the EPA is now being forced to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. The bureaucracy grinds on.

There may have been global warming but it was not anthropogenic. We have been cooling now for some years so now the Warmistas have changed the cry to Global Climate Change.

It has never been about the environment. It has been about control. Get the lemmings moving in a herd so they buy into "the government will save us all."

All you need do is look at the proposed cure. Reduce burning fossil fuels. That has been the goal of environmentalists for nearly 40 years. That is also the cure for any future growth in our economy.

SO find a cave and get your 13 watt CF bulb. No heat. That is the world that Al Gore wants for you.

You're missing the point. This is not a cow tax. This is not a livestock tax. This is a tax on emissions. In the documents it specifies that they will also tax corn and other crop fields. This means all your food goes up in price. They also specify that it will apply to homes and apartments, to small businesses, etc. This is all about a power grab for more control by the EPA. Don't be so short sighted in your dogma.

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By the way, today is the last day to leave comments in the Federal Registry. Go to this:

http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-mak...-grab-cow-tax/

to see how to do so if you are not sure. It is very important that you make your voice be heard.

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SugarMtnFarm.com -- Pastured Pigs, Poultry, Sheep, Dogs and Kids

Sad but true. New York's Gov. David Paterson's proposal to offset a looming budgetary short fall includes an 'obesity' tax:

"Sugared soft drinks will be taxed at the rate of 18 percent. "

http://gothamist.com/2008/12/15/pate...ld_raise_p.php


What's next???

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CJ

Looks like people on the New York border will have a field day. Just run across the border and buy your soda there and bring it back. Buy it by the truckload and sell it to your friends and neighbors. You'll be making an 18% profit.

They'll just end up reducing the revenue they bring in with all those new taxes. Their governor just can't see that.

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Respect The Cactus!

The average small farmer with acreage should be getting a check from the government not a new tax.

Trees and grass owned by the homesteader(read small farmer/livestock owner here if it applies)absorb carbon from the atmosphere in addition to the positive benefits of “carbon farming” by rotational grazing...the way I see it, the cities who live on top of each other and who's residence have little to no grass and trees should be paying the acreage owner a fee for covering their part of the greenhouse war.

Need to figure the calculations per acre of pasture and trees......then I want my check! ...Where is that "tongue in cheek" smiley?

Wait a minute ...if the government can't get everyone to agree to NAIS for fear of taxation.........maybe if they promise to pay us for each animal per acre that we register as a reward for doing our part on the carbon war.....there would be a line waiting to sign up.