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Old 09/29/08, 06:47 PM
 
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PC if your lookin for a place in vermont you can stay at my farm in NY. its empty now . its about a hour from vermont . see if you like the winters there . thaere about the same as vermont . plus you can drive over VT find a job or ? the people around my place in NY are real friendly to. the guy next door tells me if you need my truck the keys are always in the ignition . just put it back when your done. my place in CT the people around here will not even say hi or wave . it may help get you a little closer to your dream

Thanks BDB.. We may take you up on that.. If our house ever sales here. Just can't afford to move before hand. Would be idea too.. that way we could see what a northern winter is really like before we commit (or are commited)
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Old 09/29/08, 08:35 PM
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You only live once, don't give up on your dreams if you've found your "home". You'll never regret it once you get there. You know what they say........where there is a will there is a way. You'll get there. No one knows how long we have so seems like we better be living our dreams while we are here.
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Old 09/29/08, 08:51 PM
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I'm sure you've seen this place but it even makes me want to move to Vermont, it's more then half the price of the homes I'm looking at.

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I'm sure you've seen this place but it even makes me want to move to Vermont, it's more then half the price of the homes I'm looking at.

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yes I love that place. If I could I'd be there in a second..
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I've lived in NY. Didn't like it due to the wet snow (turns to ice overnight and you usually can't see it until you're on it) and the fact that it rained nearly every day!

May I suggest Alaska?
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May I suggest Alaska?
I'd love to move to Alaska but wife says no further north than Vermont.. maybe Maine...
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I live in upstate NY, just across the lake from VT. Actually I work in VT, alot of people here do that,living on this side of the Lake (Champlain) is Much less expensive than living in VT. VT is beautiful but as has been mentioned already, its so expensive too live there. Real Estate prices went crazy in the 90's and more so in the last 5 yrs.I grew up milking cows in VT and left as soon as I could, joined the Army, at 17, I felt there had too be more adventure, off the farm.I got too travel, came back a few times after the service, moved too FL, and finally after 10years down there, realized, I was ready too be "home". I had too alter My plans abit, when I found what real estate prices had done in My absence. NY was the answer.Prices have risen here too, but not nearly as high or as fast as VT. As far as when too give up on dreams, thats easy, NEVER! If you do, you are no longer living, you are merely existing. We all get discouraged at times, start too doubt,obstacles get in our way, etc..but its how you deal with it.Dont let it beat you down and make you quit, let it motivate you even more. Be flexable,(maybe your persuit of happiness might not lead you too VT) be patient, make sure its what you and your Whole family want and go for it! Stay Positive.. Best of Luck..
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Old 09/29/08, 11:13 PM
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Isn't it Vermont that has the "scenic view" tax?
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Old 09/30/08, 12:01 AM
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To the OP, I know the feeling and am reaching the same mindset as you.
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Don't give up. I want to get out of the city also. Next month I'll be 57. Its too late for me to do all that I would like to do but over the last few weeks a three year plan has developed in my mind. I'm looking for wooded land with water in southcentral Missouri / northcentral Arkansas.
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Old 09/30/08, 03:24 PM
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Never give up. How does that saying go- the darkest hour is before the dawn? You never know what twists and turns life has in store for you. Tomorrow a buyer may show up for your house. Keep believing.
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Old 09/30/08, 05:25 PM
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I love Vermont.. I love my farm.. but for a century (after the Civil War up until about 1950) Vermont was a place you left as quickly as you possibly could if you had any ambition at all. I like to say about my ancestors that we were either incredibly steadfast.. or completely lacking in ambition... pick one.

I personally think we lacked something in ambition. We were more about the land than we were about keeping up with progress. So the windows on my farmhouse date from 1835 and the last renovation was six decades ago. To say the house lacks insulation is to make something of an understatement.

Many people on this forum live in an endless compromise between what they'd like to have.. and what they can afford. Vermont is no different. We pay a pile more in property taxes than people in other parts of the country. Our land prices are, in some instances, eyepoppingly high. On the other hand I know for a fact that in "less desirable" towns homes have sat on the market for too long and prices are falling.

You win some, you lose some... to live in Vermont is to put your head down and just keep pulling.. looking up every now and again to marvel at your good fortune. You live in Vermont.
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Don't give up. I want to get out of the city also. Next month I'll be 57. Its too late for me to do all that I would like to do but over the last few weeks a three year plan has developed in my mind. I'm looking for wooded land with water in southcentral Missouri / northcentral Arkansas.

Being a Hoosier, the only thing I knew about Missouri, was that St. Louis was in it!

When my job as a truck driver took me though some of the rural parts of the state, I was impressed with how scenic it was and that the was much wide-open spaces, with few people.

Seems like a great place to homestead, IMO.

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Old 09/30/08, 09:25 PM
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You've gotten some really good advice and a lot to think about.
One more piece of advice.

Jump.

Just go. Don't think about it. You want it. Obviously, for your mental health, you need it. So give 2 weeks notice, pack your things and go.

I'm serious. Stop making excuses in your head. If you wait for the time to be perfect, you'll never do anything. Do you have kids? Remember when you found out they were coming in about 9 months. I don't care how much you might have wanted them, remember that part of your mind that moaned "Oh God why now???" Remember that family member who gave you the lecture on how hard it would be and all the things you'd have to give up and why didn't you use your brains and not your....

Right now, your mind is all those thoughts and lectures and negativities.
It can be done and you can do it. I moved from NY to FL with all of 1000 dollars and everything I own packed in 2 army duffels. I survived, it was a good experience. I learned lots of things, one of them being I don't like FL. But for over 5 years I whined, oh, I don't have money, it's more expensive where I want to be, I'm a single mother now... Then a hurricane ate my house and I thought "Y'know what? If I'm broke and homeless anyway, I might as well be broke and homeless somewhere I'd like to be" So I packed everything I own into a 2 door Dodge Aries and a homemade trailer, took DD and the critters and moved up north, to a generously offered, sight unseen travel trailer with no plumbing. I had 38 dollars in my pocket when I got there. And you know what? I kick myself for those 5 stupid years I spent whining every time I think about them.

So you've gotten a really generous offer of a place to live near where you want to be. You have 10K. Pack your stuff, have the mother of all yardsales, employ a good realtor and GO. How many times are you going to live? How many more years are you going to waste on "I wish"?
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Old 09/30/08, 11:38 PM
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You've gotten some really good advice and a lot to think about.
One more piece of advice.

Jump.

Just go. Don't think about it. You want it. Obviously, for your mental health, you need it. So give 2 weeks notice, pack your things and go.

I'm serious. Stop making excuses in your head. If you wait for the time to be perfect, you'll never do anything. Do you have kids? Remember when you found out they were coming in about 9 months. I don't care how much you might have wanted them, remember that part of your mind that moaned "Oh God why now???" Remember that family member who gave you the lecture on how hard it would be and all the things you'd have to give up and why didn't you use your brains and not your....

Right now, your mind is all those thoughts and lectures and negativities.
It can be done and you can do it. I moved from NY to FL with all of 1000 dollars and everything I own packed in 2 army duffels. I survived, it was a good experience. I learned lots of things, one of them being I don't like FL. But for over 5 years I whined, oh, I don't have money, it's more expensive where I want to be, I'm a single mother now... Then a hurricane ate my house and I thought "Y'know what? If I'm broke and homeless anyway, I might as well be broke and homeless somewhere I'd like to be" So I packed everything I own into a 2 door Dodge Aries and a homemade trailer, took DD and the critters and moved up north, to a generously offered, sight unseen travel trailer with no plumbing. I had 38 dollars in my pocket when I got there. And you know what? I kick myself for those 5 stupid years I spent whining every time I think about them.

So you've gotten a really generous offer of a place to live near where you want to be. You have 10K. Pack your stuff, have the mother of all yardsales, employ a good realtor and GO. How many times are you going to live? How many more years are you going to waste on "I wish"?

Great post, I was thinking along these same lines but couldn't figure out how to say it as well as you did.

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Old 09/30/08, 11:54 PM
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Im at that point too, about to give up my dreams and just settle for here.

But then I look around and this is not home, its not where Im supposed to be, and then get all fired up to go somewhere else, and then think......where the heck am I going to go?

I had a thread about that, and someone said don't be paralyzed by fear, you can waste years just sitting worrying about what if. Just to do it. I think Im in the paralyzed by fear part right now lol

PC, youve wanted this for a long time, I agree, take that person up on their offer and GO, otherwise you may never do it
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Old 10/01/08, 05:20 PM
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Hey SHY your up in n.w. PA ? its not so bad up there. my aunt had a trailer up in pymatuning . use to go up there all the time. where would you rather be than PA .
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Old 10/01/08, 05:33 PM
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shygal, you moved into the wrong part of the state. it takes very stout hearted folks to deal with the gloom of northern/north western pa. it is often as gloomy as seattle or london up there. head down to the pa dutch area...the southeast quadrant and things are less gloomy.
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