Hard Times..ideas please

Without going into much detail…can a moderator please explain how you go about confirming some one has numerous user names…is it the IP number and/or others factors?

Rick, thank you for all you have done and I am sorry you are having to go through all these inquiries.

For the rest of you (with some exceptions) .... either contribute or don't. But stop judging. Not everybody is equipped to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.

My antenna goes up anytime I find out someone's posting under more than one username and making efforts to sound like 2 (or more) different people. I don't understand why anyone does that... except for odd motives or multiple personalities, LOL.

I also hear 'alarm bells' when someone posts about their hardships to the degree that it tugs at everyone's heart strings so much the majority of people want to do whatever they can to help them out. I've been burned, many others have been burned. When you have a giving, loving heart - it happens a lot, and eventually it makes you leery of getting burned again.

Rick (I know you by "Mtnman") I am deeply touched by the Christian love you showed to another family that appears to be in great need - I know that money (and the other things) you and your wife parted with was truly a huge sacrifice for you both. I pray that this family will indeed put it to good use for the good of their future and their family. I'm thankful they were close enough you could drive to them and help. And I think it's wonderful some others of you with precious hearts who live close enough, are offering to go help them insulate, roof, etc. the room they're living in and try to help with the hand pump/well situation.

We have many truly needy families in my immediate area and we donate a great deal of time and money to them. I can make sure they're getting the food they need, clothing, bedding, and any other assistance. I can see their circumstances and needs - and help them better that way.

ModernPioneer I wouldn't put your hopes and future in your mother or her home/land - it's hers to do with as she wishes and it doesn't sound as if she's being very responsible for her own monetary needs - let alone to help support you and your family. I would recommend you relocate somewhere that does offer plenty of employment and housing. You're in a losing battle where you are. You have a wife and children to look out for; find a job as soon as you can in the restaurant business since that seems to be your craft.

There are places (churches, small restaurants) that have licensed kitchens where you might be able to 'rent' their kitchen space during their off times to bake and cook so you could sell your products and pay them with some of your proceeds to help yourself out financially. Maybe they'd work a trade with you, for some of your baked goods. Put your education background to good use. The very best of luck to you and your family.

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I have to say that a very close relative of mine was a pothead who also sold it. I used to want to be just like her as a kid--until I found out what she was doing. It made me sick, literally. I really affected me as a child and still does to this day. Don't think those babies won't be harmed, medical use or not.

Rick, you are a wonderful person. Don't feel like you need to defend yourself. I don't think anyone meant that. You did a wonderful thing and will be blessed for it.

Well, to give an example....

When you have multiple users with the same ip, using the same and/or extremely similar email addresses, all living in the same town in one state, moving to the same other state, all have the same genders/ages of children, have the same breed of dog obtained from a shelter, and so on and so on ad nauseum......

Does that give you a little better idea of how the pieces are put together in a moderator investigation?

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I have to say that I'd been reading this thread faithfully. I put in some points for MP earlier and I gleaned quite a bit from the posts myself.
But its turned into a tooth and nail, scratching and biting kind of post, so I guess I won't get anything else from it but a headache. No need to keep following it.

i am guilty of using differant handles on several sites.....i make up a password and then forget..in order to get back on the forum i have to make a new handle...... another reason in googleing myself, handles will come up and it would be some easier to track or get a reading on me.....so i switch for this reson also..... another reason is on some threads people have clicks,,and i will use another handle to see if i am treated differant,,kind of research if you will.

i tried to think of a neighbor of mine that were down and out comparable to this story..... the only one i thought of was a felon,thief, 3rd dui,er that won't work.... his wife and kids wonder why no one will invite them over or come over.........

Duhhh, I didn't think of that! LOL.

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A kind word, gesture or deed can mean more to someone than you may ever know. It may even change their life.

I agree, it is not a sin to have different names or user ID's on HT.

It is frowned upon without announcing a name change, of course.

I would like to see Modern Pioneer come clean, and own up to what's going on.

ETA: The user ID changes are in chronological order...without deep research, I did not see multiple user ID's at the same time.
Furthermore, the changes to the user ID, do indeed, match the moving dates to KY, the move back to grandmas, etc.

Clove

This is only to clarify- I use Mountainman spelled out in my gmail address.

I have been Rick since I joined in the Lusenet days! As far as the sacrifice goes, we keep some cash buried here in case the banks fail, and I took them 1/3 of that. With our standard of living it should buy food for them for 8 or 10 weeks. We eat a lot of fancied up brown rice dinners, and oats and fruit with kefir for breakfast. Eggs a couple of times a week. Salads and sprouts too!

I thank you for your kind words.

Rick

KCM, I don't feel that Karen or Angie are stating that these people are or are not in a dire situation nor are they stating that they would or would not help. I do feel they are advising people that when they get involved in donating money to people via the internet, they should go into it with their eyes wide open and some questions are not being answered. I think both are to be respected for asking people to make sure that they have sufficient answers to their questions before they start shelling out their hard earned money. We've had situations like this unravel and all of a sudden everybody seems mad at the mods for having not protected them from internet fraud. Some of you have offered reasons why you have mutilple identities over multiple sites but surely each of you is aware that multiple identities for a single user at this site is against HT policy.

This thread is closed until Cabin Fever may decide to re-open it when he comes online.
If you wish to help, you have the information to help. If you do not, that's okay also.

Angie

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First of all, based on the response to this thread, as well as the many e-mails I have recieved, I would like to say how humbling...and proud....many of the Homesteading Today family has made me. The outpouring of concern and compassion for a fellow HT member has been inspiring. Rick, you the man! We know your compassion comes from a spirit of giving and love for your fellow man. Your concern and compassion are characteristics shared by many HT members.

I believe this thread has raised questions and concerns, many of which have been addressed. I am also thankful to the HT Moderators and other members who have reminded all of us of past abuses of HT generosity, which have resulted in current questions and caution. These Moderators and other members were simply attempting to protect the HT community based on several past painful experiences.

Many inspired, detailed and creative suggestions and recommendations have been offered by helpful HT members. This advice is what was originally requested by the Modern Pioneer. and I am sure he and his family appreciates it.

However, if you feel led to assist Modern Pioneer and his family in other ways, we suggest that you contact him via PM and make arrangements to convey your generosity.

If you still have questions for Modern Pioneer, we also suggest that you contact him by PM.

We are hopeful that we will be hearing that Modern Pioneer and his family have made positive strides towards a more stable future. Please keep us informed and ask for homesteading advice at any time!

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