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07/29/08, 09:21 PM
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I say again, varmits will not carry it away with them. Is it really gone,,,or is the remnants of a feast scattered around ????
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I'm with KS Farmer on this one.
Wildlife would not likely leave the immature ears unscathed IMO.
Hey sorry for the loss nevertheless. It really is disheartening after all your labors.
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07/30/08, 01:29 AM
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Squirrels did that to mine last year so decided not to even try this year since we're overrun with squirrels.
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07/30/08, 01:54 AM
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Well, I was also wiped out one year by coons. Not a huge patch, but they got it all. Just as it was ripening. The next year I watched it closer, found one ear opened and "Tested" for ripeness. The electric fence went up that day, and we actually got to put corn in the freezer.
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07/30/08, 05:30 AM
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I voting for KSfarmer idea of 2 legged varmint. We have people around here who would do that. Haven't had it happen to us yet. Actually they wouldn't get away with it if our cows are in the pasture that is next to the garden. They would start bellowing and never stop until I come out or the trespasser leaves. They did this one night 2 in the morning. I got up with loaded gun, turned out to be the neighbors across the street sitting in a running truck (?). I do wonder if these people perhaps had crossed the road to start the cows going but I didn't seem them. I had to bring the cows into the barn and have a lock down until daylight.
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07/30/08, 08:24 AM
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It's coons!!!
Do you know anybody that coon hunts? One yr a yound farm hand sat up and got 8 in one evening. It was the neighbor's corn but closer to us in a field. They never planted it there again.
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07/30/08, 08:30 AM
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Racoons can do it, but I found a squirrel was stealing my corn, caught him red-handed-- errr red-pawed. Would have been funny if he hadn't kept stealing the ears that were just about ready to pull and eat.
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07/30/08, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ksfarmer
I say again, varmits will not carry it away with them. ?
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WRONG, I watched a squirrell carry an ear of my corn over the fence and out of my yard.
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07/30/08, 11:16 AM
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I agree with those that say if there are no half eaten or empty cobs on the ground or stalk it was'nt coons or any other four legged varmint and that leaves only the two legged varmint. 
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07/30/08, 11:30 AM
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Consider this a senior level class in agriculture.... or life (the same thing).
Nobody wants to rob you when you're carrying the ore down the mountain... they want to rob you when you're bringing the silver back up (Butch and Sundance).
Next time your crop is almost ready to harvest, go out and nuke those that would rob you of your increase... whether it be two legged or four legged critters.
Assume you planted by the rules of 4, right??? If so, there'd be no problem... Rule of 4 is you plant enough for you, enough for your neighbors, enough for the weather, and enough for the varmints. This way, you'll always have enough for yourself, and sometimes a huge bounty... so that you can enrich your neighbors...
good luck on the rest of the corn... and you might want to look up some coon recipes... if they ate my corn, I'd be aerating some the next night...
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07/30/08, 11:33 AM
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Guerrilla gardening is political gardening, a form of nonviolent direct action, primarily practiced by environmentalists. It is related to land rights, land reform, and permaculture. Activists take over ("squat") an abandoned piece of land which they do not own to grow crops or plants. Guerrilla gardeners believe in re-considering land ownership in order to reclaim land from perceived neglect or misuse and assign a new purpose to it.
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What constitutes "abandoned land"? Any land you can sneak onto and not get caught, if it's in the back forty? There's something about that part "PERCEIVED neglect or misuse" that I don't agree with.....my definition may differ from yours. If I found someone planting on my land, I guess this means I can also harvest the produce. Or tear it down. My discretion.
Then again, there is already a good number of "guerrilla gardeners" in our area......they're called "marijuana growers".  That's illegal, too.
Maybe your neighbour thought your were "misusing" your land, and felt the need to re-do it for you. 
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07/30/08, 05:16 PM
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Yes I am a enviromentalist, working on frugal living that protects senseless killing of animals so you can have your BLOODY steaks!
The humane way here may be the electric fence, sure it will give animals some pain, but animals are smart creatures! They'll stay away.
A motion activated camera is in the plans, this is my first year of gardening and unfortuately I have not the room to do the "4 rule". My neighbor has free range chickens and I'll contact my neighbor, he has a fenced in garden, see if he has had problems, tho I'm fairly sure the fence is to keep the chickens out.
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07/30/08, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDIE BUCK
I agree with those that say if there are no half eaten or empty cobs on the ground or stalk it was'nt coons or any other four legged varmint and that leaves only the two legged varmint. |
When the coons hit my just ripe patch last year, there was plenty of evidence of their presence, including bent stalks and half-eaten cobs.
Would a motion activated sprinkler work on coons? I would think it would deter a person at least at first.
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07/30/08, 07:14 PM
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Coons would probably appreciate a sprinkler - that way they could wash their food right on site.
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07/30/08, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Faithful One
Yes I am a enviromentalist, working on frugal living that protects senseless killing of animals so you can have your BLOODY steaks!
The humane way here may be the electric fence, sure it will give animals some pain, but animals are smart creatures! They'll stay away.
A motion activated camera is in the plans, this is my first year of gardening and unfortuately I have not the room to do the "4 rule". My neighbor has free range chickens and I'll contact my neighbor, he has a fenced in garden, see if he has had problems, tho I'm fairly sure the fence is to keep the chickens out.
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Faithful One, I doubt if you'll ever meet or talk to a more rabid environmentalist in your entire life...than me.
If you can't do the '4 rule' you have to be able to control the other '3'... be able to irrigate your garden and protect it from wind and hail and sun... scratch the neighbors... and nuke the wildlife. Raccoons and opossums are not endangered anywhere in N. America. In fact, misguided souls often encourage and enable these populations of animals to breed out of control... my GF worked with some Vets (who should know better) that fed Coons every night... not realizing these varmints wreak havoc on small flora and fauna populations.
Where did Bloody Steaks come from? No one mentioned steaks... There are hundreds of millions of acres of non crop land that cattle graze on... All cows are grass fed... the onliest ones eating grains are the ones that go to feedlots... cows aren't 'raised' in feedlots... too expensive. I've got 100 acres of hills and woodlands, that are impossible to farm. The cows graze seasonally in different areas and the land is better for it.
The absolute worst thing that can happen to a plot of land, imho, as a Rabid Mad Dog Environmentalist, is for a large tract of land, especially ranchland, to be broken up into small tracts, so that small landholders can own land... They invariably Nuke the ecosystem, stripping it of all wild flora and fauna, and taming it down, for humans. And, again (invariably), it's usually people that have never lived on the land before, and they try and protect the worst species around... coons and possums... and make life untenable for so many birds and lizards and other tiny animals...
I better hush up, or I might get kicked out of the "homesteading union"... 
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07/30/08, 10:03 PM
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I rather enjoy Texican's "perspectives".
Whether I agree with him or not, he always leads me to think about things I had not previously considered.
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07/30/08, 11:13 PM
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Faithful One, I doubt if you'll ever meet or talk to a more rabid environmentalist in your entire life...than me.
If you can't do the '4 rule' you have to be able to control the other '3'... be able to irrigate your garden and protect it from wind and hail and sun... scratch the neighbors... and nuke the wildlife. Raccoons and opossums are not endangered anywhere in N. America. In fact, misguided souls often encourage and enable these populations of animals to breed out of control... my GF worked with some Vets (who should know better) that fed Coons every night... not realizing these varmints wreak havoc on small flora and fauna populations.
Where did Bloody Steaks come from? No one mentioned steaks... There are hundreds of millions of acres of non crop land that cattle graze on... All cows are grass fed... the onliest ones eating grains are the ones that go to feedlots... cows aren't 'raised' in feedlots... too expensive. I've got 100 acres of hills and woodlands, that are impossible to farm. The cows graze seasonally in different areas and the land is better for it.
The absolute worst thing that can happen to a plot of land, imho, as a Rabid Mad Dog Environmentalist, is for a large tract of land, especially ranchland, to be broken up into small tracts, so that small landholders can own land... They invariably Nuke the ecosystem, stripping it of all wild flora and fauna, and taming it down, for humans. And, again (invariably), it's usually people that have never lived on the land before, and they try and protect the worst species around... coons and possums... and make life untenable for so many birds and lizards and other tiny animals...
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07/31/08, 01:49 AM
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A local woman has had the same problem.
Gardener Has Veggies Stolen
During the night, thieves stole corn, green beans, squash and tomatoes from Vicki Adams.
When Adams found out about the thefts, she was furious.
"What I said can't be repeated on camera," said Adams.
Other neighboring gardens have been hit as well, but Adams has the biggest garden of any that has been stripped.
It stretches from just outside her front door to across her street, but most of the produce she had been tending to has been taken from her.
Passers by have told Adams her loss is a sign of tough economic times, but she has an answer to that statement.
"They need to be made to get a job and work like I have to," said Adams.
Adams cans, and eats every morsel she raises from her garden. She's hoping the thieves don't come back for what's left.
"I get out here in the hot sun, while everybody else is in the air conditioning. I hoe out my garden. That's what I love to do," said Adams.
She believes the thieves stole her vegetables to buy drugs and said green beans are selling for $20 to $28 a bushel.
Macon County sheriff's deputies are investigating what happened, but authorities said the likelihood of the thieves being caught and Adams getting her vegetables back is slim.
http://www.wsmv.com/news/17042719/detail.html
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