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Old 07/26/08, 05:39 PM
 
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I guess I am the only one who thinks of Steak every time I hear his name. t-bone steak... picking at that good ole steak....
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Old 07/26/08, 06:10 PM
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I guess I am the only one who thinks of Steak every time I hear his name. t-bone steak... picking at that good ole steak....
His name sounds like a banjo player to me.
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I saw today where Pickens owns a Honda automobile. Fact is, it's a Honda that's been on the market for 10 years now.....and runs on natural gas right out of the factory. Natural gas is a common home heating source for millions of Americans. Thing is, the stations that have natural gas for automobiles are few and far between. Natural gas sells for 2.50 a gallon and I have a line that fuels a house I own. Mr. Pickens thinks I should also have the device that will allow me to fill my car at home and pay the city once a month along with my other utility bills there. Not a bad idea, but how much natural gas do we have still in the ground. Mr T. Boone thinks we have way more than we do oil and so that may be one of his angles on alternative energy. Something we already have with a car on the showroom floor that costs about 8 thousand more with the set-up, but you get a 4 thousand rebate from the govt. for doing the deal. I wonder how much the apparatus for fueling your own vehicle at home might cost.

I also wonder if natural gas comes right out of the ground ready to use without anysort of refinement. As well, is Honda the only car on the market now that is in the retail market with the set-up for natural gas.

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I think he's looking to line his own pockets.... but...... this is the sort of wide-ranging plan we need and we've been lacking thanks to the oil obsession of the current crew. This may not be exactly the right plan, but it's something we should be looking at.

Drilling offshore is something we may need to do anyway, but it's certainly shouldn't be the main focus because it's NOT a solution. At the very best it just buys a little time, probably measures in months rather than years.
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Old 07/26/08, 08:22 PM
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He may or may not be correct in this. But one thing is for absolute certain, he ain't doing it out of the goodness of his heart. You can bet he has a way figured out to line his already deep pockets even more.
So what? If not him, then who? Inevitably, someone will and it will benefit all of us in the not-so-long run.
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Old 07/26/08, 08:26 PM
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Interesting. The man is 80 and could be kicking back living the high life and not giving a rip about his country but people want to fault him for spending his OWN money to try and point out that we need to make some changes.
I think he is absolutely right and I would vote for him for president before any of the professional jerks we have in Washington living the high life on OUR money. Go figure.
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Old 07/26/08, 08:34 PM
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His is the only voice of reason that I've heard.

They can drill and put a wind generator on my place day after tomorrow if they want.
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Old 07/26/08, 08:44 PM
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I don't have TV so I haven't seen the ad that TBP is running. I have heard that he freely admits that he stands to make some money on wind power, but he also points out that he really doesn't need the money anyway.
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I saw today where Pickens owns a Honda automobile. Fact is, it's a Honda that's been on the market for 10 years now.....and runs on natural gas right out of the factory. Natural gas is a common home heating source for millions of Americans. Thing is, the stations that have natural gas for automobiles are few and far between. Natural gas sells for 2.50 a gallon and I have a line that fuels a house I own. Mr. Pickens thinks I should also have the device that will allow me to fill my car at home and pay the city once a month along with my other utility bills there. Not a bad idea, but how much natural gas do we have still in the ground. Mr T. Boone thinks we have way more than we do oil and so that may be one of his angles on alternative energy. Something we already have with a car on the showroom floor that costs about 8 thousand more with the set-up, but you get a 4 thousand rebate from the govt. for doing the deal. I wonder how much the apparatus for fueling your own vehicle at home might cost.

I also wonder if natural gas comes right out of the ground ready to use without anysort of refinement. As well, is Honda the only car on the market now that is in the retail market with the set-up for natural gas.
As to how much natural gas we have the following numbers are from the Texas Railroad Commision who records and tracks the data..This is a state of Texas website......In 2007 Texas produced 5,715,537,597 Mcf (I think that stands for Metric cubic feet) of natural gas...Thats almost 6 billion Mcf...In May of this year there was 452,841,196 Mcf of natural gas produced....as someone that comes from an oilfield family the way I understand it is that as oil dwindles natural gas will rise to a peak , but once it peaks production will drop very rapidly...But that is a couple of decades away here in Texas anyway...And these numbers are for the state of Texas alone....We do have the ability to wean ourselves off of foreign oil using natural gas and wind and solar energy....I have wondered for years why Texas and several southwestern states did not use the more than abundant wind and solar potential...Several years when I worked for the Post Office some of our vehicles had been converted to run off of CNG, compressed natural gas or gasoline...When you switched it over to CNG there was very little difference..Didn't accelerate quite as fast from a stop, but really don't ned jackrabbit starts.......I agree that Pickens will probably stand to make even more money on this but he tells you up front that he made his money in oil, he doesn't hide it....I think he has some wonderful ideas..if he was on the ballot I would vot for him as the next Prez.......LnE
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I wonder how much the apparatus for fueling your own vehicle at home might cost. As well, is Honda the only car on the market now that is in the retail market with the set-up for natural gas.
Well here is a phone number and e mail addy I am sure by the locks of the small unit for the home it can't be all that expensive.
http://www.myphill.com/
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Bunches of his videos here:

http://www.pickensplan.com/media/?bc...tid=1651750502
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I'm not surprised that some folks think
theres something wrong with making a
profit from a good idea.
There is nothing produced or manufactured
without some chance of profit. Not one bit
of research or development.
I'm fine with "whoever" making a killing
with a good answer to our current mess.
Somebody is already making a killing.
The really smart people have most often
put their energy into making money.
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I went to his website and looked around for a bit. I like what he says...and I also say, give him a chance!! I mean, what this country, and all the "oil men" that are in charge, have done hasn't worked, then maybe it is time to try something different? Maybe, just maybe, if enough wealthy people get on the alternative energy band wagon, those types of energies, would come down? I'm not an economist, but all the drilling in the world, isn't helping if we don't have anywhere to refine oil!!! I say he can plant one of those wind turbines in my front yard, any time!!! I don't think he could screw things up any worse than they already are!!
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Old 07/27/08, 07:16 AM
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His website. Pickens Plan website.

There's a lot of talking going on but not much action. He's doing something. We can't say that of many people.
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Old 07/27/08, 07:42 AM
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I also wonder if natural gas comes right out of the ground ready to use without any sort of refinement. As well, is Honda the only car on the market now that is in the retail market with the set-up for natural gas.
It must be compressed - so you can't just tap into your compost pile. I think the compression may happen in the refueling unit? It's been a long time since I studied it, but I did a LOT of research on CNG cars back in college. What I do still remember is that they are considerably safer and cleaner than gasoline cars... and natural gas is renewable.

We had one commercial CNG station in Austin at that time. The inconvenience made it hard to convert people. Plus, gas was probably only a buck a gallon at the time.

I would be happy to see CNG revived.
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Old 07/27/08, 08:49 AM
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wind power

T Boone has invested heavily in Wind Mills. not just the ones he bought but the Mills themselves. He is simply looking forward.

He also knows the danger of relying on foreign oil. When china comes online with mass cars most of the oil will go that way. T- Boone knows what will happen in America when the mid east stops paying homage to America and goes where the need is (with out the fight).

we have plenty of oil her in america. but our oil companys wont open their on capped off wells until other resourses run closer to dry- then the US can once again dictate oil prices.

nobody in washington or in the banks or in business doubts the need for other methods of powering our daily lives. its just a really huge machine to change direction and most of us are OIL thinkers- not battery thinkers or CNG thinkers or a combination of such.

one day, solar power and wind power and batteries are going to be great places to invest money (stocks). not today perhaps but someday.
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And while he stands to make a bunch of money from this, I would rather give my money to an American than to a bunch of people who hate us and treat their own people very bad...I have been to several mideast countries and the normal people are less than dirt..Thats a shame for countries as rich as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait...I for one am tired of paying homage to the Arabs.....LnE
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T. Boone Pickens is one of my favorite people in business.

He is smart, rich, and old. He most likely has something to say that is important. He has already walked the walk.

Energy wise, the downward slide that we are on now needs an "off ramp" real badly. He may have something to add that is of value.
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This guy ain't no dummy, of couse he expects to make a lot of money, this is the way the system works, he's investing 10 billion in this. I think he is trying now to get a bill passed where the government can take land in the wind corridor from the coast to Canada if the land owner refused to lease. I read where some of the farmers around Sweetwater TX are very please with the lease payments. Think about it, wind farms all the way to Canada and the state of Navada covered with solar panels, this is the future along with nuclear.
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And while he stands to make a bunch of money from this, I would rather give my money to an American than to a bunch of people who hate us and treat their own people very bad...
Amen!!
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