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Old 07/23/08, 09:36 AM
 
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You need to find out if this is a legal easement allowing them access or not, if it is, it most likely has wording if gates, etc are allowed.

If gates are allowed, I would put up a couple that they have to stop and open and close when coming and going, after speaking with the parents and explaining that the gates are going up due to the kids speeding and you aren't doing it to make enemies, just need to protect yourself and your livestock from accidents.

I would always be careful with ranting, raving, threatening or cussing neighbors, it can at best make enemies, and at worst get you shot, or jailed.
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Old 07/23/08, 09:47 AM
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similiar situation here. was a dead end road till a housing addition started going in. had troubles off and on with one of the two the neighbors before anyway and when dump trucks started racing up and down the road one guy neigbor installed 12" pipes 1/2 buried in the gravel as speed bumps. the dump truck drivers got the idea. my other neighbors visitors/live ins/ meth heads still go too fast and peel out all the time because they don't have to drive over the speed bump to get out. grrrrr.
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Old 07/23/08, 10:44 AM
 
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Too bad it's not your own kids. I told mine that the next payment for gravel would be their's if it didn't stop. It stopped.
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Old 07/23/08, 10:56 AM
 
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IMO, you should have never given the neighbor an unencumbered right of way. Maybe it was there when you got the place, it is difficult to take it away. I would insinuate to the neighbor that if the situation did not improve that you were going to see if you could get the right of way altered or rescinded. Probably won't happen but he may not know that.
The OP probably had no say in the easement's creation. When a property has no direct access to a public road, the law creates an "access easement" over neighboring property. It sounds like that's what the OP has.
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Old 07/23/08, 11:55 AM
 
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An easement doesn't have to be straight. Just put a road around your property on the outside and fence it off so they can get to their property and not come by your house or through the pasture. I would never buy a property that has a road easement on it. Especially if it ran near my house. The other thing is to just sucked it up and bear it until they move away and buy that piece of property.
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Old 07/23/08, 12:18 PM
 
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We access our home via an easement. The deed clearly defines the location and boundaries of the easement so it could not be moved without us signing off on it.

I don't think there is much you can really do to force them to slow down. Speed bumps might help but might also cause more problems. Many farmers around here put orange cones out when they are moving their livestock across the road. Doesn't force people to slow down but it alerts them of the danger.


I have to admit. I HATE speedbumps. There are a couple streets in town that have had them installed recently becasue the neighbors banded together and made a big fuss. It would be ok if you could take then at the 25mph speed limit but these force you to come to an almost complete stop and ease over them.

I have been known to lay on my horn for the time it takes me to slow down, clear the bumps and resume my legal speed.
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Old 07/23/08, 12:34 PM
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probabaly a private rd with right-a-ways for the people past the farm..Ck on what by laws if any were written when the people started building past you. the actual speed limit in the US is 55 miles an hr on nall unposted rds and there's not much you can do about it unless you own the rd and have rules. I would put out cattle crossing signs and stop her every time she goes by for a while.
ck your deed, it must have all the details about the right a ways. find out who's responcible for maintence, dig some nice pot holes just past your house with out any knowing how they got there.

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OR....install two cattleguards in the road, one at each edge of your property, so the cattle can't escape. Driving across a strategically placed cattleguard takes some time, especially if the pipes aren't real close together, or a few of them are slightly higher than others. Perfectly reasonable since you have livestock to move across the road, you're actually protecting others from wandering bovines getting in the road. Of course you are.
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Old 07/23/08, 04:52 PM
 
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We live at the end of our dirt road, we own the road. The other two have easements. We got tired of fixing the road do to, the kids that live on our road including my own kids. My DH put in speed bumps, made of packed gravel, piled 8"s high x 1' wide. Everyone complains that my car bottoms out. None of the cars will bottom out, if your going slow enough.

Edit: The kids complain not the adults. And then there is the 10 year old with the bike down the road, that loves them.

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Old 07/23/08, 05:30 PM
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Id think of putting in a gate at each end of my property on a slightly slanting pole, that way it would swing shut on its own AND when opened need someone to hold it to keep it from swinging shut while they drive thru. Then a couple of real rough cattle guards should do it. I would be very clear about telling the parents that you had to do this cause the SPEEDING cars are scareing your stock off of your place, You sure HATE haveing to do this but you know how it is now a days with cars going so fast and all......

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...............here in texas , when you need to cross another ranchers land to enter your own property , they Use 'Bumper Gates' , you gently use the front of your vehicle to push the gate open , and once thru , it will automatically close itself . They work very well and you have to approach them , very slowly . , fordy
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Old 07/23/08, 06:01 PM
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Airoticv (sorry for misspell):

Could you give me details about the packed gravel -- crush & run? Did you DH dig a trench in the road first?

This sounds doable. Gates are too $$, folks.

As for talking reasonably with the neighbors, this is the neighbor who threatened the new tenant and told her she didn't have a right to walk on that road. Yep, the very same road.

All in the family are total morons, unfortunately.
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Old 07/23/08, 06:21 PM
 
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Airoticv (sorry for misspell):

Could you give me details about the packed gravel -- crush & run? Did you DH dig a trench in the road first?

This sounds doable. Gates are too $$, folks.

As for talking reasonably with the neighbors, this is the neighbor who threatened the new tenant and told her she didn't have a right to walk on that road. Yep, the very same road.

All in the family are total morons, unfortunately.
.................Have a load of #2 road base with 3/4 inch rock delivered , Water it down and use the frontend loader of a tractor to form the basic shape of a speed bump ; in the summer heat it will dry and become hard very quickly . And , gates aren't that expensive if you provide your own labor ! OTOH , if you subcontract the whole deal out , I could see where it might getr pricey . , fordy
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Old 07/23/08, 06:44 PM
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Hey.

Cut some potholes as suggested above. Next, water the road around the potholes to keep the dust down...

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Old 07/24/08, 02:41 AM
 
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I think the bumpy gravel is about the only thing you can get away with.

Of course, the people with the easements can likely hire a grader - or run their own tractor & blade if they have one, to maintain their easement and remove your bumps again.

The cattle guard gates would make sense, but only be on each side of your property, might not slow things down much in the middle.

No good ever comes out of these private road easements. In general shared private roads are not allowed in my county, tho easements to allow access to farm yards over farm fields owned by a farmer are allowed. They have enough troubles with those - farmer tends to plow a little closer allt he time, and leave dirt on the gravel road as he turns around. The farmyard owner tends to leave noxious weeds grow & bloom on their easement, continuing to spill weeds into the farmer's field.

Seems private shared roads are real common in other areas. And a never ending source of problems.

Well, gee, sorry for being such a big 'help' to you with my rambling! Sheez.

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Old 07/24/08, 07:35 AM
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it's a dirt road people no need to dig or buryy anything just letthe waste water from the animals into the road after your driveway and turn it into a bogg. No damage unless they are careless and that would be on them. Can be passable if done slowly, and by all means lett he animals take longer than needed to cross the road about time they come through. These are after all oother possible means of proper comunications has failed,.
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OR....install two cattleguards in the road, one at each edge of your property, so the cattle can't escape. Driving across a strategically placed cattleguard takes some time, especially if the pipes aren't real close together, or a few of them are slightly higher than others. Perfectly reasonable since you have livestock to move across the road, you're actually protecting others from wandering bovines getting in the road. Of course you are.

I like this. Gotta protect the non-country folk now, don't we?
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Old 07/24/08, 10:51 AM
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Gates are too $$, folks.

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LOL no your thinking too nice these should be made out of the heaveyest material but put togather in the shoddyest way. You want them to sag and drag. They need to be just good enough to swing shut but flimsy to handle and heavey to move. It would be nice if you could figger a way that they wouldnt drag while swinging shut but dragg like the dikens when opening.....
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Old 07/24/08, 02:38 PM
 
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Get ugly, act insane, rant and rave and appear "unstable"...that's what I would do.
That's what I do. I have a very straight stretch od road passing in front of my house that is apparently tempting for speeders. The couple of land owners past us all drive respectfully, but young visitors coming to see their teenage daughters and visitors to a couple of rentals down the road can barrel down the road. Getting met on the road by me, the crazy hippie, usually stops the issue.

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I would always be careful with ranting, raving, threatening or cussing neighbors, it can at best make enemies, and at worst get you shot, or jailed.
What you say is true, but I never threaten anyone with anything other than calling the cops, and I always try to ask nicely at first. And going 60 down a dirt road in front of my house, thus endangering my children if they happen to be riding bikes, can at best make enemies and....

Really, being known of as the crazy hippie who hates speeders has worked fabulously. One of the neighbors gets a new renter, they speed, and then get met on the road by me....the next thing you know is all of their friends begin creeping by the house driving slow.

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Old 07/25/08, 07:41 AM
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Spread calcium chloride to cut the dust down, and add the speedbumps.

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