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Old 07/23/08, 08:20 PM
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Well I know in 1970 I walked a few miles rain or shine to work at the Feed Mill.Loading and Unloading Rail Cars 100# Burlap sacks of Grain or Feed fast as you could go for 8 hours.$1.75 an hour.Then in Summer after work at the Mill I would go to the fields Haul Hay half the night .02 a Bale.At the time I had a 3 room apartment,shared Bath,furnished in Springfield ,Missouri.$40 a month.

But back then I was a 145#,Washerboard Belly,Strong as an Ox Stud. and I sure laugh at these kids now days.

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Old 07/24/08, 08:25 AM
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Good Thread

I'm going to take the easy middle road here.

My grandpa was able to purchase a house and raise a family as a high school drop out logger. He worked hard, definately, but try doing that these days.

Farm kids worked hard and most still work harder then most these days, I hear the stories from my dad and grandpa, but I think life was easier (if that makes sense).

The only luxery I have right now is a case of beer every month, and in my humble opinion, I think it is much harder today to raise a family with ma at home as a twenty something then it was even 20 years ago. Some will say, "sure, but you need all these "toys"", and that is definately not true in my case. I just have a car, and my tv was a present. No personal cell phone, no cable, no video games...

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is...life was more fair back in the old days. People worked hard, and were able to provide a good life for their families. Today, it's possible, but you need to work hard AND smart, and have some luck...hard work just isn't going to cut it anymore.

In addition to my current job, I'm building up my side job in hopes of one day being able to afford a small 3br, 1000sq ft home with no frills (but mabye and acre or two), and have my wife take care of the "youngins" (one now, and one on the way).

Life isn't easy, but I physically sit on my butt all day in an office chair, and at night I work on my business from the computer as well and hear myself getting fatter, but as my business grows, I'll hopefully have more time to get out and do some "real work".
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I see much of this has turned into "we walked to school 5 mi. uphill each way in knee deep snow with no shoes". I never said that their work wasn't physical. I know plenty about it as I was there, my parents were part of the Great Generation and my Grandparents were all immigrants. The work was physical but usually without a minute by minute acct. and a deadline by the hour. Much work was done while teaching a lesson or even singing, try singing at your job today. The reward for the work wasn't always money usually just pride in a job well done.
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Old 07/24/08, 09:14 AM
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...life was more fair back in the old days. People worked hard, and were able to provide a good life for their families. Today, it's possible, but you need to work hard AND smart, and have some luck...hard work just isn't going to cut it anymore.
Totally spot on and a point missed by a few older folks. I think the Boomers are going to be the last generation to enjoy a decent retirement. I think most people under the age of 30 will most likely have to work till they drop.
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Old 07/24/08, 09:28 AM
 
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You hear so many talk of the "old timers" and hard work. In reality the older generations had a lot more down time and family time. Don't get me wrong, work was physical and time consuming but usually it was a smaller portion of their life. The checkerboard at the country store wasn't for retirees or welfare recipients. All of the drive to tourist attractions and motels weren't for the rich and famous. Sundays were always a day off and in many places Wed. was a half day. Sat. was go to town day.
I don't know if you are speaking from experience or from listening to the "older generation" ... or reading ... but if you are speaking from experience, you were raised in a very different rural community than I was.

The original 640 acres of the Montana ranch where I grew up was homesteaded by my maternal grandparents. Most of the time my grandfather worked "outside" as a cowboy (40 miles away, horseback) for $40 a month and one day a month off to go home. My grandmother and the two girls did all the work at home, including raising a garden, which involved carrying water from a spring to water the plants, canning the winter food, requiring chopping wood and/or hauling coal for the stove and taking care of the livestock. The nearest neighbor was 2 miles over the hill ... next nearest 3 miles. Nearest store was 18 miles and "town" 60 miles ... transport was with a team and wagon ... in the summer.

All of the years I was home, until I was grown, married and gone, it was rare to have a Sunday off ... my mother and I managed to get to the local church maybe once a month if we weren't haying and cooking for a hay crew or out in the field ourselves.

There were usually three "community" get-togethers. The one in the spring was the day the community school was out ... 8th grade graduation (the biggest graduating class I remember was 3 students!) ... everyone brought a covered dish, there was a "picnic" and usually a baseball/softball game. Midsummer was the 4th of July ... usually at the "local" lake, which was about 20 miles away and again, covered dishes, hotdogs, marshmallows to roast, swimming ... by the time I was a teenager a couple of people had boats and we waterskiied. Sometimes in the late summer there was another one, if there were local kids that were going away to college and/or military service, but not always.

My family ... and most of the ranch families ... managed one full day/night at the local rodeo and fair ... it was a 4-day rodeo, always had a carnival, horse racing and usually some kind of night show.

My father really liked to fish up in the mountains and we almost always managed one 3 or 4 day trip to the mountains, camped out and fished ... it was about a 100 mile drive one way ... and that was usually our only vacation.

My grandparents went to town with the team and wagon twice a year ... spring and late fall.

Up until I was pretty much pre-teen or teenager, we probably went to town once a month during good weather ... there were times in the winter we were home 3 months at a time and picked up the mail at the county road (3 miles away) by horseback. (No 4 wheel drives or snow machines then)

By the time I was a teenager the roads were better and people drove more, but we still didn't go to town more than once or twice a month unless we had to go in for machine parts ... and in winter it was pretty much the same ... we went in if we had to but not otherwise.

There wasn't a lot of neighborhood visiting because neighbors were not close and most of the time everyone was working. You never got "finished" with everything that needed to be done.
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