 |
|
07/12/08, 02:32 PM
|
 |
..where do YOU look?
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: northcentral WI
Posts: 3,918
|
|
|
Argument... oh no! That was a very friendly discussion. I guess I'll have to watch my "tone" more carefully. I've got nothing but love for SS... and respect his position and opinion.
R
__________________
When faced with issues in life, where do you look for the problem; out the window, or in the mirror?
|
07/12/08, 03:26 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
|
.
I new a man who had a sign at the beginning of his road that said:
" GET COUGHT GET SHOT "
It also had a drawing of a skull and cross bones over it.
He shot at one man.
He later died when his log house burnt completely to the ground with him in it.
Nothing left but some corner stones
All they found of him was his neck bone, and some of his spine attached.
The rest of him burn completely up.
bumpus
.
|
07/12/08, 04:22 PM
|
 |
Icelandic Sheep
|
|
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 3,344
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WindowOrMirror
Argument... oh no! That was a very friendly discussion. I guess I'll have to watch my "tone" more carefully. I've got nothing but love for SS... and respect his position and opinion.
R
|
 That's why I clarified that I meant that in the nice way. An argument isn't always a fight. In logic, an argument is a set of one or more declarative sentences. I meant that you guys were constructing arguments, not having one.
 RedTartan
|
07/12/08, 06:49 PM
|
 |
AFKA ZealYouthGuy
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NW Pa./NY Border.
Posts: 11,453
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTartan
That's why I clarified that I meant that in the nice way. An argument isn't always a fight. In logic, an argument is a set of one or more declarative sentences. I meant that you guys were constructing arguments, not having one.
RedTartan |
No need to be argumentative. 
|
07/12/08, 07:54 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,322
|
|
|
Do goats make good guard animals?
|
07/13/08, 10:38 AM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,143
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faithful One
Guerrilla gardening, hiking or just taking off days and live in the woods, tresspassing can be fun.
You just got to know what to avoid, like stay away from buildings and avoid hunting seasons and holidays. You leave the land as you found it, always go by foot or bicycle. Slip off into the wilderness, just as our Natives did in hundred of years in the past.
It's no big deal, just show respect and quietness.
|
I can see where you might think it isn't a big deal. You don't pay my mortgage, you don't pay my taxes and after you have tromped over things I have spent time to plant you don't have to deal with it.
If you truly showed respect you would take heed of my "no trespassing" signs and not come on my property.
If you do happen to trespass on my property I will have you charged. If you are carrying a weapon you will be treated accordingly.
|
07/13/08, 11:02 AM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
|
.
The question was ... " How serious is trespassing? "
It is as serious as the person who files the complaint of trespassing, and as serious as the one who up holds the law by prosecuting the offending person.
It is also as serious as the one who is the judge who finds the trespasser guility, and applies the fines, and jail time.
bumpus
.
|
07/13/08, 12:58 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: IL, right smack dab in the middle
Posts: 6,787
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike in Ohio
If you do happen to trespass on my property I will have you charged. If you are carrying a weapon you will be treated accordingly.
|
Really? If he does the things he advocates I doubt you will ever know he was there.
|
07/13/08, 05:53 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,143
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasymaker
Really? If he does the things he advocates I doubt you will ever know he was there.
|
That's what some other folks thought as well....... They were wrong and they found that their mistake was much more costly than they anticipated.
As long as a person is willing to accept the consequences of their trespassing ways then let her rip.... and be prepared to accept the consequences. Don't whine when you are caught.
Last edited by Mike in Ohio; 07/13/08 at 05:57 PM.
|
07/13/08, 07:03 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: the edge of the forest
Posts: 251
|
|
|
The legal advice you get here for free is not worth much, given what you have at stake. I would suggest that you invest a little money to consult with an attorney in your area. No one here knows your zoning ordinances. A little money invested in sound advice seems prudent.
|
07/25/08, 09:52 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8
|
|
Try this site. http://landrights.com/ I have posted the sign they have on my property. Now even the Sheriffs dept won't enter with out permission or a warrant, much less some city or county employee with less authority. In Texas you may use force to remove someone trespassing on your property. At night you may use deadly force to stop trespassing. Our trespass laws are stronger than most states, so I would check your states statutes. Your states law is available on the net. Fear not your government, make it fear you.
|
07/26/08, 08:13 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 5,553
|
|
|
Since you already are aware that what you are doing a wrong thing (breaking the city ordinance) why not atleast attempt to correct it by calling city hall and asking to be given a time slot for the next coucil meeting where you are state what you've shared with us about your son and his health and see if you can't get a variance on the code?
Marlene
__________________
It is the one with persistence and determination that brings great ideas into being.
|
07/26/08, 11:02 AM
|
|
stranger than fiction
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Eastern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,049
|
|
Quote:
Guerrilla gardening, hiking or just taking off days and live in the woods, tresspassing can be fun.
You just got to know what to avoid, like stay away from buildings and avoid hunting seasons and holidays. You leave the land as you found it, always go by foot or bicycle. Slip off into the wilderness, just as our Natives did in hundred of years in the past.
It's no big deal, just show respect and quietness.
|
Oh, really, is that how it works? Well, heck, I think I'll sell my 90 acres, move into the city, and just start zipping through my neighbours' backyards; after all, I'm not hurting anything.  Sheesh, and here I bought my land to have some privacy.  Seeing as you're all enjoying my land, though, would you mind contributing to the taxes I have to pay? You should feel free to enjoy that as well.
Quote:
|
Milk is not necessary for humans to live.
|
I agree with that. Maybe they'll say, "if he's allergic to dairy, why not use rice or soy milk then?" You will not be able to justify a requirement for goat milk.
__________________
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese in the trap."
|
07/26/08, 08:18 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 150
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Try this site. http://landrights.com/ I have posted the sign they have on my property. Now even the Sheriffs dept won't enter with out permission or a warrant, much less some city or county employee with less authority. In Texas you may use force to remove someone trespassing on your property. At night you may use deadly force to stop trespassing. Our trespass laws are stronger than most states, so I would check your states statutes. Your states law is available on the net. Fear not your government, make it fear you. |
lol, that is ONE mean sign! It is very intimidating!
Again until I SEE the treaty that the Indians signed in my territory, the Government has NO RIGHT to regulate land. Only Tribes do.
The Trail of Tears will never be forgotten. I won't get sucked into fiat land ownership!
|
07/26/08, 08:29 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,682
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faithful One
lol, that is ONE mean sign! It is very intimidating!
Again until I SEE the treaty that the Indians signed in my territory, the Government has NO RIGHT to regulate land. Only Tribes do.
The Trail of Tears will never be forgotten. I won't get sucked into fiat land ownership!
|
Don't be intimidated; that sign has no more legal force than any other "No Tresspassing" sign. No one will be paying $5,000, and if anyone posting it believes that it will apply to government officials on lawful business, they have a disallusioning moment coming.
Also do not imagine that the government has no right to regulate land and that only tribes do. That is quite wrong. Heck, even on reservations that can be wrong.
A dispute where both sides are wrong. I love it. A lawyer's dream.
__________________
"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law." -- Winston Churchill
|
07/26/08, 09:46 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichieC
Don't be intimidated; that sign has no more legal force than any other "No Tresspassing" sign. No one will be paying $5,000, and if anyone posting it believes that it will apply to government officials on lawful business, they have a disallusioning moment coming.
Also do not imagine that the government has no right to regulate land and that only tribes do. That is quite wrong. Heck, even on reservations that can be wrong.
A dispute where both sides are wrong. I love it. A lawyer's dream.
|
Another poor misinformed person, I see. The sign has and will hold up in a court of law, at least in Texas. It has been tested.
|
07/26/08, 09:56 PM
|
|
AFKA ZealYouthGuy
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NW Pa./NY Border.
Posts: 11,453
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Another poor misinformed person, I see. The sign has and will hold up in a court of law, at least in Texas. It has been tested.
|
Snicker... this ought to be interesting. I need to get some popcorn.
|
07/26/08, 10:59 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,682
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by seedspreader
Snicker... this ought to be interesting. I need to get some popcorn.
|
You know the drill, right?
2Dogs, Court and docket number. Published citation would be even better.
__________________
"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law." -- Winston Churchill
Last edited by RichieC; 07/26/08 at 11:35 PM.
|
07/26/08, 11:35 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,682
|
|
|
And let me add, for anyone tempted to believe the comforting lies at landrights.com, that the site is full of disinformation, kindergarten-level legal analysis and the ramblings of people who simply lack the intellectual capacity to understand the issues they are discussing. Rely on it at your own (considerable) risk.
__________________
"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law." -- Winston Churchill
|
07/26/08, 11:48 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Carthage, Texas
Posts: 12,261
|
|
|
It would be nice if a piece of paper nailed on a post would stop someone, whether it be the feds, state, local, or trespassers, from entering someones land.
To see just how much juice the govt has, simply forego paying tribute each year (property taxes)... After it's all over, if you're lucky, you'll still be a free man, although you might be living under a bridge.
Till this govt. falls, I'll pay tribute in Federal Reserve Notes. If a warlord, in the next stage of discivilization appears and demands tribute, hopefully I'll have enough of the currency required...
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:23 PM.
|
|
Check us out out "
