WHY Does the Government Hate Hay Producers?

fantasymaker · #21 05/31/08, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by uncle Will in In.

They allow the haying of CPR ground during severe dry conditions in various areas. It is to benifit producers who would otherwise be forced to buy overpriced hay, or reduce their breeding herds.

How do you figger its over priced? Its a free market price...or at least it is till the governmet releases the CRP acreage.

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Originally Posted by sammyd

Releasing CRP has nothing to do with hay prices.

The USDA doesn't have price supports for vegetables either.
They don't hate ya that's just farming.

How can you think that? It standes to reason that if there is a shortage of hay that raises prices and the government then ADDS MILLIONS of acres of hay to the market that the price of hay will go down,

Its normal that in times of shortage the prices go up that helps compensate for the reduced output and for the years when prices are low, It works that way with Grain and oil seeds AND there is a price support floor under them but not so hay. In hay you suffer thru the bad years and then just when you think you have a year when you might make a few bucks the government yanks the rug out from under you.

The usda DOES have a sorta back handed price support for vegiess, if you have ground enrolled in any other program you cant plant veggies on it........LIKE YOU CAN HAY!

texican · #22 05/31/08, 11:22 AM

I've never thought of hay as a commodity. When I think of commodities, I think of tradeable commodities... traded on the Chicago Board of Trades.

Fantasymaker, I assume your a hay commodity grower or trader?

I've never understood the hay market.

In previous years (forget the present, with soaring prices for necessities) the cost of fuel and fertilizer and labor was more than the final price of hay. People would be selling fertilized hay for less than their input costs. An uncle that cuts hundreds of tons each summer never sells any hay... he prices what it costs, and no one wants it. Of course, he really doesn't want to sell any anyways...

fantasymaker · #23 05/31/08, 01:43 PM

Actually I have more ground in CRP than Hay.......but it still doesnt seem fair to me

sammyd · #24 05/31/08, 06:56 PM

Bird nesting season in WI runs till Aug 1 according to the USDA maps. That should be some pretty crappy hay by then. Would be cutting 3rd crop in Aug normally, getting all 3 crops in 1 cutting makes for lots of hay but very low quality.
Maybe it's a plot to make the farmers use more grains to make up for the nutrients lost in using such old hay.