Any Pa. Conceal Carry holders here?

pookiethebear · #21 05/19/08, 10:27 AM

I am in PA and have a CCW permit. It is no big deal here. I tried to use it for an alternative photo ID and the lady had a cow, and would not accept it for whatever reason....

retiredbop · #22 05/19/08, 10:41 AM

I saw it mentioned earlier, but concealed carry means exactly that. And if it's done properly nobody should even be aware that you are carrying. If somebody does see it, you are either trying to impress people (wrong reason to carry) or just plain sloppy in your handling (in which case you aren't sufficiently trained to be carrying).

Now, that said, from a law enforcement standpoint; if you should happen to be confronted by a police officer who asks you to get out of your car or who asks to search you, it is definitely in your best interest to tell him/her ahead of time that you are carrying and the exact location of your weapon. NEVER try to take that weapon out. Just make them aware of it. Then follow their instructions precisely. They may very well draw their weapon, but they are going to respect the fact that you told them about it ahead of time, and that you cooperated.

Oh, and one more near and dear to my heart. If you are carrying a weapon, you have ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS DRINKING ALCOHOL. NOT EVEN "JUST ONE"!!!!

seedspreader · #23 05/19/08, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredbop

I saw it mentioned earlier, but concealed carry means exactly that. And if it's done properly nobody should even be aware that you are carrying. If somebody does see it, you are either trying to impress people (wrong reason to carry) or just plain sloppy in your handling (in which case you aren't sufficiently trained to be carrying).

Now, that said, from a law enforcement standpoint; if you should happen to be confronted by a police officer who asks you to get out of your car or who asks to search you, it is definitely in your best interest to tell him/her ahead of time that you are carrying and the exact location of your weapon. NEVER try to take that weapon out. Just make them aware of it. Then follow their instructions precisely. They may very well draw their weapon, but they are going to respect the fact that you told them about it ahead of time, and that you cooperated.

Oh, and one more near and dear to my heart. If you are carrying a weapon, you have ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS DRINKING ALCOHOL. NOT EVEN "JUST ONE"!!!!

Sigh, whether anyone likes it or not, conceal carry (even doing it the right way) still leads to public opinion. If you aren't sure go do it in a few states that don't allow it.

I understand that people won't know whether you do or don't... but there is still a public sentiment about it. And that's what I was asking about.

I agree with the rest of the post concerning the police.

Hey, Cabin Fever, how did you get a Utah permit?

**Cabin Fever** · #24 05/19/08, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by seedspreader

....Hey, Cabin Fever, how did you get a Utah permit?

The Utah permit is the most recognized CCW permit in the country....in other words, it is accepted by more states than any other state permit is. Consequently, there are instructors in Minnesota who provide the Utah permit course due to this advantage. Besides the required instruction by a Utah licensed instructor, the permit application package includes an applicants photograph and finger prints.

seedspreader · #25 05/19/08, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by anniew

In PA you need a concealed permit to carry in the car...
NYS does not recognize a PA permit. PA will give a NYer a permit, but NY will not give one to a PAer.
Doesn't make sense.

NY doesn't honor ANY other states... so don't feel too bad.

michiganfarmer · #26 05/19/08, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Vet

The permit is for concield carry not open carry. .

thats fantastic, but there are states that have made it illegal to open carry.

seedspreader · #27 05/19/08, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

The Utah permit is the most recognized CCW permit in the country....in other words, it is accepted by more states than any other state permit is. Consequently, there are instructors in Minnesota who provide the Utah permit course due to this advantage. Besides the required instruction by a Utah licensed instructor, the permit application package includes an applicants photograph and finger prints.

hmmm, I'll have to look around and see who offers Utah training here.

MELOC · #28 05/19/08, 12:17 PM

i agree with a poster here that it is rediculous to have to apply for a permit to carry a weapon that we allegedly have the rights to carry. i guess that is another thread.

i do have a related question. isn't pa one of the states where it is legal to carry openly?

seedspreader · #29 05/19/08, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MELOC

i agree with a poster here that it is rediculous to have to apply for a permit to carry a weapon that we allegedly have the rights to carry. i guess that is another thread.

i do have a related question. isn't pa one of the states where it is legal to carry openly?

I agree, and yes.

But then, gun control laws only work on those who obey laws, which is why they don't work at all.

beowoulf90 · #30 05/19/08, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by seedspreader

I know getting the permit is easy, I just was going to ask about the general atmosphere of other Pennsylvanians toward those who CC.

Yes PA is fairly easy to get a "Carry" permit, except in Filthadelphia...PA is a shall issue State unless there are problems..
I've never had any trouble with others who know I carry, but then again I don't live in a city or town. Check my sig line and you will see a link for Pennsylvania Firearms owners Association... Well worth visiting to check out the laws and such..

MELOC · #31 05/19/08, 02:22 PM

how about carrying a sidearm openly in public in pa?

seedspreader · #32 05/19/08, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MELOC

how about carrying a sidearm openly in public in pa?

Are you asking "is it legal" or "why don't you do it?" ?

Peace n Quiet · #33 05/19/08, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MELOC

how about carrying a sidearm openly in public in pa?

I live north of Scranton Pa - where a couple of guys tried that last week. They were eating dinner in a restaurant when another customer called the police. The Dickson City cops showed up, and investigated the men. See the link below for the full story:

http://www.wnep.com/Global/story.asp?S=8320639

My thoughts... while it is very legal for these guys to openly carry a weapon, why not get a concealed weapon permit? It is easy to do so. AND although I am all for the right to carry, why push it by carrying into a family restaurant and "inviting" trouble? I see the restaurant now forbids weapons. How long before some legislator writes a bill, and makes it law? I think people who "push" their rights only make it harder for the next guy.

DJ in WA · #34 05/19/08, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by seedspreader

Sigh, whether anyone likes it or not, conceal carry (even doing it the right way) still leads to public opinion. If you aren't sure go do it in a few states that don't allow it.

I understand that people won't know whether you do or don't... but there is still a public sentiment about it. And that's what I was asking about.

I guess because you are sighing, we are not answering your question (or are you just trying to make a point?). How about explaining more about why you're asking. Why are you interested in public opinion? Why do you care?

I'm sure if I told everyone I'm carrying, most would object, but it isn't any of their business - why do you think it is? More information please.

seedspreader · #35 05/20/08, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ in WA

I guess because you are sighing, we are not answering your question (or are you just trying to make a point?). How about explaining more about why you're asking. Why are you interested in public opinion? Why do you care?

I'm sure if I told everyone I'm carrying, most would object, but it isn't any of their business - why do you think it is? More information please.

I am interested in public sentiment for my own reasons, which is why I asked people FROM Pennsylvania. I sighed because YOU used this thread to make a point and not answer the question. Pretty simple really and no extra information needed.

THETOOLMAN · #36 05/20/08, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by seedspreader

Seems like it's pretty easy to get your CCW permit in Pa. Anyone here carry in Pa?

yankees with guns is a scarry thought

seedspreader · #37 05/20/08, 08:39 AM

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yankees with guns is a scarry thought

Thank God there aren't any yankees around here, just Americans.

MELOC · #38 05/20/08, 08:43 AM

when i ask a question it is usually because of "all the above". i had heard it is legal to carry openly and i wanted to know if that was true. i also wanted to know if many others knew if it was legal and if they would carry openly instead of carrying concealed.

i don't think a person is aggrevating any situation by carrying concealed. you are excercising your right to carry...simple as that. i do feel that if sidearms were more visible, it would discourage crime moreso than if a person carries concealed.

seedspreader · #39 05/20/08, 08:48 AM

I open carried here in Ohio as a kid, during hunting season (always would carry my pistol on my side, unless that particular season didn't allow it) and I've open carried out west when I was in college and on vacation, but I am always amazed at how scared many people are of guns.

beowoulf90 · #40 05/20/08, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MELOC

how about carrying a sidearm openly in public in pa?

Yes it is legal to "open carry" in PA (except in a city of the 1st class in plain words Filthadelphia unless you have a concealed carry permit), but as to how adviszble it is is another matter. I carry open on Fridays just because I can and have never had any trouble, but as the news has said there was trouble in the Scranton area just recently. Again I will say check my sig line for a link to PAFOA, they have the laws pertaining to this thread and links to where you can find the info if it isn't on their site..