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A spreading adder, or hog nose, which is 100% harmless.........
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04/24/08, 11:14 AM
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Rat snake or king snake, both of which are in that area...Not a hognose (body too thin)...Not venomous...A colubrid...No need to kill.
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04/24/08, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by doohap
no no no no no! Snakes are a very important part of the ecosystem. Unless it is poisonous and you are in danger, let it live. I just don't understand the "KILL KILL KILL" attitude that persists. I guess it's spurned by fear.
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Mostly we leave well enough alone but I would suggest killing none native species if one recognizes them. They are problems down in the glades with escaped and released pets. Snake such a pythons and other reptiles and more furry pets.
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04/24/08, 11:59 AM
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Nebraske= rat snake, farmers best friend
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04/24/08, 12:12 PM
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I had no plans on killing him - although I DID almost run over him with the truck. The only snakes I do in are the nasty ones (of which we don't have many).
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04/24/08, 12:57 PM
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I would vote Copperhead. Was the head triangular in shape? Due to
"certain unexplainable vicarious weather patterns that won't be mentioned
here" species are showing up in higher latitudes these days. (btw, I've
seen many Copperheads in my life, and had one dog that was bitten by
one [cost me $600!!!] so not sure what made one poster say, "definitely
NOT a Copperhead"?)
pc
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also, the aggressive nature made me think CH.
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Originally Posted by pcwerk
I would vote Copperhead. Was the head triangular in shape? Due to
"certain unexplainable vicarious weather patterns that won't be mentioned
here" species are showing up in higher latitudes these days. (btw, I've
seen many Copperheads in my life, and had one dog that was bitten by
one [cost me $600!!!] so not sure what made one poster say, "definitely
NOT a Copperhead"?)
pc
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also, the aggressive nature made me think CH.
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Because the body doesn't have the girth, the pattern isn't even similar and copperheads as a rule don't slither into a hole when threatened, they coil and prepare to strike at their attackers.
Here's your copperhead:
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04/24/08, 01:21 PM
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Its a prairie kingsnake major robent eater
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04/24/08, 01:25 PM
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I was going to guess hognose or prairie rooter.
Doesn't matter, it's a snake.............Kill it.
Hunt down it's family and kill them too.
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Probably best if we just kill every living thing on earth that isn't human. THEN we'll be safe.
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04/24/08, 01:36 PM
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If it's not a coral snake, which is easy to recognize - Red and Yellow, kill a fellow - then it's obviously a COPPER MOUTH WATER RATTLER!
Yup, that's it.
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04/24/08, 01:55 PM
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Because the body doesn't have the girth, the pattern isn't even similar and copperheads as a rule don't slither into a hole when threatened, they coil and prepare to strike at their attackers.
Here's your copperhead:

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If I saw THAT thing in my yard I'd have to change my underwear..... not before I ran away at record speed. 
Makes me really glad all I have around are garter snakes and black rat snakes.
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04/24/08, 02:07 PM
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Rat snake
And I'm with those who don't kill snakes just because they are snakes. Snakes are quite helpful on the farm.
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04/24/08, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doohap
no no no no no! Snakes are a very important part of the ecosystem. Unless it is poisonous and you are in danger, let it live. I just don't understand the "KILL KILL KILL" attitude that persists. I guess it's spurned by fear.
Peace,
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I know snakes are an important part of the ecosystem, but snakes are not allowed on my property, no exceptions, and the penalty is death.
I'm phobic about snakes, I'll never learn to like them, so they have to live by my rules. (somewhere else)
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04/24/08, 03:32 PM
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Probably best if we just kill every living thing on earth that isn't human. THEN we'll be safe.
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Whatever.
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04/24/08, 05:30 PM
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After further review.....
and some research....
I am gonna call it a Prairie King Snake. It seemed to match the best, right down to trying to rattle it's tail when threatened. It also had the "yellowish/olive" tint to it.
Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by Scrounger
After further review.....
and some research....
I am gonna call it a Prairie King Snake. It seemed to match the best, right down to trying to rattle it's tail when threatened. It also had the "yellowish/olive" tint to it.
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LOL ALL the Rat Snakes do that too
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04/25/08, 01:07 AM
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Prairie Kingsnake. They actually kill and eat copperheads and rattlers. Had a huge one living out by my woodpile last year. Biggest one I've ever seen. Dang near 5 feet long. Hope he made it through the winter and comes back.
I never kill snakes even the poisonous ones. If a rattler or copperhead shows up too close to the house, in an outbuilding or or somewhere else inconvenient I just gather it up and put it out in the timber. The non venomous ones I'll remove from the house if they get in somehow but otherwise I leave them be. Maybe pick them up and admire them for a while and then back they go to kill mice and rats and do whatever else snakes do in their spare time.
Many an afternoon I've spent wandering around the timber looking for snakes. Found a den of garter snakes once which is quite an impressive sight to behold. The year before last I found a smooth greensnake which is supposedly endangered and hasn't been seen in my area or my state for that matter for many years. Prettiest little thing you ever saw. I'd have liked to informed the conservation department of it but like the other endangered or threatened species of animals I've found on my place I keep it to myself so I don't have bureaucrats swarming the place and telling what I can or cannot do.
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04/25/08, 01:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornhusker
I know snakes are an important part of the ecosystem, but snakes are not allowed on my property, no exceptions, and the penalty is death.
I'm phobic about snakes, I'll never learn to like them, so they have to live by my rules. (somewhere else)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornhusker
I know snakes are an important part of the ecosystem, but snakes are not allowed on my property, no exceptions, and the penalty is death.
I'm phobic about snakes, I'll never learn to like them, so they have to live by my rules. (somewhere else)
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Y'all don't let Cornhusker fool ya...I recently ran across a pic of him with is favorite pet...
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04/25/08, 02:18 AM
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Hey...I was fine with this thread till that last picture. Thanks Reptyle...but that's not a snake..that's the lock ness monster.
I've seen some big snakes on TV, but I've never seen one that big!
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