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04/15/08, 08:39 PM
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I try to stay away from feed stores in general and prefer to visit the feed mill.
Usually a few bucks cheaper for just about anything feed related.
The big exceptions would be rabbit pellets and beet pulp around here.
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04/16/08, 01:36 AM
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ditto on the letem eat grass, also stop trying to put corn in the gas tanks.
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04/16/08, 09:20 AM
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Testing the corn?
The farmer who leases our land grows corn and I'm sure he'd sell (or give) me as much corn as I'd care to store when he harvests it. I can ask him if he has it tested. He calls it "feed corn" so maybe he does.
If not, how can I test for the toxins? Can I send it to someone, and what do they charge? Can the ag extension do it for me for free or cheap?
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04/16/08, 09:24 AM
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We'll GLADLY send you some of our extra Deer and Turkeys......
Here, we plant food for upland game birds, but the deer can fend for themselves. We've been overrun with them AND Turkeys.
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04/16/08, 07:49 PM
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We make/bag/sell deer corn.
It is just corn we put in all of our feed, with some minerals and molassas.
Great profit in it for us.
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04/16/08, 08:08 PM
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Around here, people feed the deer to attract them to an area near a dear stand, so they can hunt them.
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04/16/08, 08:09 PM
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Around here, people feed the deer to attract them to an area near a dear stand, so they can hunt them.
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That's what they do here, too.
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04/17/08, 06:29 AM
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Around here, people feed the deer to attract them to an area near a dear stand, so they can hunt them.
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Around here they call that illegal. Can't even feed them to attract them to your back yard so you can watch them. No feeding them in any way.
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04/17/08, 06:54 AM
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Around here they call that illegal. Can't even feed them to attract them to your back yard so you can watch them. No feeding them in any way.
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It is nice that each state can make the laws they want. One state simple things are illegal. In another state the people might actualy be free
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04/17/08, 08:44 AM
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Around here they call that illegal. Can't even feed them to attract them to your back yard so you can watch them. No feeding them in any way.
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Really??? It's certainly not illegal here. People buy deer feeders with timers for the purpose.
And if they haven't changed the law lately in Florida, you can hunt deer with dogs there. I think that's illegal in most states.
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04/17/08, 08:49 AM
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Has anyone priced seed corn. It's $10 a pound here!
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04/17/08, 09:09 AM
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I had a friend from up north came down and went hunting with us. He could not believe that here in the brush and cactus we have deer feeders that throw corn to attract the deer. He explained how he felt it was unsportsmanlike behavior to hunt a feeder and he would not shoot a deer at the feeder. He recently sent me a picture of him in a tree stand with a buck below him. He was perched on the edge of a giant corn field. Talk about hunting a feeder.
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04/17/08, 09:52 AM
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Worldwide the price of all grains (including rice - which is now a worldwide food staple) are going up for a variety of reasons. The fall of the dollar has made U.S. exports cheaper and China and India are today large importers of food stocks. Weather hasn't been kind to crops in some areas. High cost of fuel results in high cost of crops, including transportation of harvests. While the farmer may have to eat them for a while, eventually supply and demand pass it on to the consumer. Then there is the use of crops for ethanol production.
There have already been food riots over high prices in Haiti, the Ivory Coast, Egypt and Yeman (and perhaps other countries). Article in today's paper North Korea may experience yet another severe food shortage due to crop loss and embargos. Cable news program noted The World Bank is asking for a rapid influsion of some $500M to be used for immediate food relief in third world countries.
There have been rumors U.S. suppliers of flour may not be able to even meet all of domestic demand this year.
On feeding deer, I feed my pond ducks, which I don't harvest. What is the difference?
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04/17/08, 11:13 AM
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My brother contracted 400,000 bushel to an elevator in Juniata, Ne. at $5.73 a bushel. He has to haul it 7 mi. It never sees the inside of his bins. He's hoping for a dry fall so that he doesn't have to bring the moisture level down.
Big variable when you have to run it through a natural gas fired dryer.
He won't make any more on his corn this year, than in previous years when he was selling $2.00 corn.
So where is it going?
$1,000 a ton fertilizer.
$3.50 a gal. Diesel (no road tax, or it would be higher)
Higher land taxes because farm and pasture ground is being sold as recreation and hunting land. Causing a higher price for his leased ground.
Natural gas has been the only thing that hasn't gone overboard with only moderate price increases.
He is keeping back + or - 100,000 bushel to finish out some steers. Hoping that the price of cattle will stay down a little on 850 feeder calves. Thinking that this is where he will glean some profit. If the price doesn't stay down on the calves he'll sell the 100,000 bu. of corn also.
At least he'll break even and live to plant another year.
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04/17/08, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok
Worldwide the price of all grains (including rice - which is now a worldwide food staple) are going up for a variety of reasons. The fall of the dollar has made U.S. exports cheaper and China and India are today large importers of food stocks. Weather hasn't been kind to crops in some areas. High cost of fuel results in high cost of crops, including transportation of harvests. While the farmer may have to eat them for a while, eventually supply and demand pass it on to the consumer. Then there is the use of crops for ethanol production.
There have already been food riots over high prices in Haiti, the Ivory Coast, Egypt and Yeman (and perhaps other countries). Article in today's paper North Korea may experience yet another severe food shortage due to crop loss and embargos. Cable news program noted The World Bank is asking for a rapid influsion of some $500M to be used for immediate food relief in third world countries.
There have been rumors U.S. suppliers of flour may not be able to even meet all of domestic demand this year.
On feeding deer, I feed my pond ducks, which I don't harvest. What is the difference?
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Eliminate the subsidies and tariffs involved with ethanol;release all land enrolled in the CRP program to be available for those that want to grow any type of grain
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04/17/08, 11:59 PM
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Eliminate the subsidies and tariffs involved with ethanol;release all land enrolled in the CRP program to be available for those that want to grow any type of grain
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And life is simple, right?
I don't think everything is fair & perfect. But, most of the programs & tarriffs we have came about for a reason.
Your way, all ag would move to other countries, USA ag would go in the toilet, wildlife would suffer first, and then we would be dependent on other contries for both our fuel AND our food.
Pray you don't ever get what you ask for!!!! It would not be pretty.
Again, not that I like everything just the way it is either....... Some change can be good.
You didn't address a single problem of agriculture in the USA - everything you ask for is to decrease the cost of grains. Trouble is, land, fuel, fertilizer, weed control, seed, everything has risen a great deal in the last 18 months.
Food is going to cost what it needs to cost to supply it. It won't be any other way. If you want cheaper grain, getting rid of the USA producer _won't_ do it.
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04/18/08, 08:08 AM
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According to your posts,ethanol has little or nothing to do with the cost of corn.
How would letting ethanol freely being imported into the U.S. threaten the corn producers if the govt. mandated usage had nothing to do with the high price of corn?
As far as imputs, seed and fertilizers didn't start to skyrocet to the extent they have until corn took the route it has.
As far as ag moving to other countries, that's been happening for years. The South American countries have been increasing their production of grains at a greater level with good quality.
Apparently the U.S. government chose to benefit one segment of agriculture at the cost of the livestock producers.
Enjoy.....someday you might be the one regretting you new found govt. backed high prices.
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04/18/08, 08:18 AM
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As far as imputs, seed and fertilizers didn't start to skyrocet to the extent they have until corn took the route it has.
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Fertilizer went up when oil did.
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As far as ag moving to other countries, that's been happening for years. The South American countries have been increasing their production of grains at a greater level with good quality.
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Brazil has become a major contender. When EU could no longer get enough non-GMO soy and corn from us, they started getting it from Brazil instead. Which depressed our market and boomed Brazil.
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04/18/08, 08:42 AM
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Ladycat, it did go up as oil went up but not at a level of last year to date.
As the price of corn went up, the fertilizer companies wanted to get as much as they could.
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04/18/08, 10:04 AM
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I have a cattle herd. Normally about 12 year-round, but may buy more young, bred, cows to winter over if I have extra hay. Price of fertilizer along is making me VERY seriously consider liquidating the resident herd and just renting out the hay fields, pasture allocated to them.
Now I am only one, but in TN the average beef farmer has something like 25 brood cows. You knock enough of us out of business and it will eventually effect the U.S. supplied beef.
I'm going to rough it out this year, but may sell the entire herd in the 09 spring cow-calf sale.
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