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03/27/08, 07:49 AM
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$80-125 that is with hiring a contractor.
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03/27/08, 08:20 AM
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DH and I recently posed this same question to his uncle, a contractor who is helping us build our house.
He told us that the standard wood frame houses here are about $80-100/ft. and about $20K for a full basement.
We are doing what we can to lower this price by using reclaimed materials and doing as much as we can ourselves.
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I'm unable to self-build as my 'real' job is how I'm paying for the land.
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03/27/08, 10:31 AM
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No.
A pre-engineered shell.
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Then your 12.23/sqft isnt valid. How much did it cost when you were done.
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03/27/08, 10:35 AM
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Mine was 16 by 40 for $15,000 plus $1,000 for delivery
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We dont have many rules but single wides are NOT permitted in the county except in an existing trailer park. On top of that they must be inspected every year after 5 years of age and CANT be moved to another location in the county
after they reach 5 years of age.
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03/27/08, 10:58 AM
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Then your 12.23/sqft isnt valid. How much did it cost when you were done.
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As I stated the: 300' Driveway, sitework, backfill, foundation, building delivered on site, 3 hours of crane, and all tools and equipment, work out to $12,23 per sq ft for the finished shell.
We are living it our house today. And we have been living in our house for the past two years. It is a work if progress. We used up all of the nest-egg funds that we had saved. And now between farming and building, we put into it as much as we can each month.
Today it is a Faraday cage, we have the radiant heat floors, windows, sunken living room, and the jacuzzi. It is insulated to R-40 walls and roof.
We project that when it is entirely finished, with indoor 40' lap-pool, slate floors, the walk-in chill-box and walk-in freezer, it will finish around $50k.
I do not anticipate going over that budget at all.
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03/27/08, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MushCreek
The OP did mention that that was for post and beam, which is pretty expensive in most places. One big factor is local codes. Some places specify every last nail, and won't allow you to live there until you get a CO. Other places will let you camp out in your basement while you build the rest of the house (really). We're going to build in rural SC, and, although they do adhere to modern codes, they will let you 'camp' on your land, and you don't even have to have blueprints. At the permit office, I was told "Just get a permit and have at it!" Typical costs in SC run $75 to $125 for ordinary construction and trim levels. We are hoping to keep it down to about $50 or less, doing much of the work ourselves.
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There's little of that socialist nanny state (it's for your own good) code stuff here either (at least in the countryside). No permits, no blueprints, no certificate of occupancy... If you have over ten acres, no septic permits or special jet systems... You can live in a tent, lean to, squalid hovel, whatever, while your building...
Saying that, the yocals have cracked down a bit on commercial businesses... you have to inform the tax office that your building one. Seems too many folks weren't 'informing' the tax boys about their new digs... personally, I went 13 years off the 'tax grid'...
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03/27/08, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary in ohio
We dont have many rules but single wides are NOT permitted in the county except in an existing trailer park. On top of that they must be inspected every year after 5 years of age and CANT be moved to another location in the county after they reach 5 years of age.
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We are not that urban here.
Around here a lot of folks live in trailers.
Build a pole barn around it in stages. One year the poles and roof. Another year some decking. Another year windows and walls, and just keep the trailer's yolk sticking out of one end and it is still considered a trailer.
It is not uncommon to see a 'single-wide trailer' within a 2500 sq ft home. Summer porch, a summer kitchen and an attached garage.
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03/27/08, 06:19 PM
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We built our tiny cottage for under $7,000. It is 252 sq-ft plus lofts so that comes out to be about $27 per sq-ft. We provided all the labor and I did the design which keeps the cost down. What we build is far better than what one can hire built and since we did it I know it was done right. Windows were almost all salvage from an office building that got redone. Some natural stone from our land, some granite free from local stone sheds plus concrete, concrete block and brick. See:
http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/2007/10...y-cottage.html
and
http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/labels/Tiny%20Cottage.html
There is no zoning or other annoying, unnecessary government interference here aside from septic rules and we are grandfathered on that. Those things drive up the prices making housing less affordable. I purposefully picked where we live to avoid Nanny State interference and have voted against zoning when it comes up. When looking for land, always check out such things.
Cheers
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Sugar Mountain Farm
in the mountains of Vermont
http://SugarMtnFarm.com/blog/
http://HollyGraphicArt.com/
http://NoNAIS.org
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03/27/08, 06:36 PM
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In SD the penal system has a program where inmates build houses at cost and they are sold to elderly and low income types like me. I am considering buying one, at 1008 sq. ft., 2 bdrm, 1 bath, for $33,000; comes out to $33 a sq. ft. Cost includes everything except stove & refrig and floor coverings and includes setting it up on your foundation. Foundation not included.
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03/27/08, 09:04 PM
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I really hated to put birds in our new barn. It is way too pretty! I thought it would have made a gorgeous house! It is 24 x 32 (I think) and cost us $10,000 including the cement floor. 2 smaller sliding doors on either end of the upstairs and one large slider downstairs. It has metal roofing. I still think it would make a great house. Too bad the birds have pooped all over inside it! Yup, that was painful.
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03/28/08, 12:44 AM
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I really hated to put birds in our new barn. It is way too pretty! I thought it would have made a gorgeous house! It is 24 x 32 (I think) and cost us $10,000 including the cement floor. 2 smaller sliding doors on either end of the upstairs and one large slider downstairs. It has metal roofing. I still think it would make a great house. Too bad the birds have pooped all over inside it! Yup, that was painful.

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That sounds remarkably cheap for that barn, I would think materials would be more then that.
Friend just priced a 30x40 metal building. $11 per sq. ft. installed. No floor, no wiring, no insulation, basically a shell.
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03/28/08, 09:20 AM
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That sounds remarkably cheap for that barn, I would think materials would be more then that.
Friend just priced a 30x40 metal building. $11 per sq. ft. installed. No floor, no wiring, no insulation, basically a shell.
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It was remarkably cheap! Mennonites. I think they had a source that cut the wood for them. It is all rough cut. We plan to sell this place and I wish I could take that barn with me!
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03/28/08, 09:33 AM
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If you count the battons using the 36 inch door as a guide it is a 16X24. The price is comperable to what I charge on one with less detail. I would have charged $ 8500 without the concrete floor or cupala. I also mill the lumber myself.
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03/28/08, 09:41 AM
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As far as price per square ft. In this area it was In the $60.00 range a few years ago, now its cheaper because all the builders are competing for the few jobs that are available. New houses are 20 K cheaper than the were two years ago if you buy one in a sub-division.
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03/28/08, 11:14 AM
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Hi Guys,
A question is that just the structure NOT the Land right? I plan 1000 sq foot passive solar bermed structure only glazed on the south side R 30 to 4 foot below grade and R 50 roof insulation. R 30 4 feet in around the floor perimeter radient heat in the floor with a massonry stove, a standing seam roof . Texican were, how are you doing a $1.00 a foot steel roof best I've found is $1.86?
I plan this at less than $10 a square foot (maybe as little as $6.00) finished were is all this extra money needed? or is it? it cannot all be labor?
Dutch
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03/28/08, 05:49 PM
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The type of construction, and local laws all play a big part in determining cost. Conventional houses on conventional foundations cost money- even if you do it yourself. In our case, I'll contract out the foundation, since we will have a full basement, and I lack the skills to build one. But the foundation alone will run between $10-$20 sq ft. I originally planned to do part of the house in timber frame, but SC requires both engineered drawings ($$$) and grade stamped timbers ($$$). So I can't just cut down some of my numerous oak trees, cut them into timbers, and build a house, like our ancestors did. Never mind that many of those 'unprofessional' structures are still around today.... Even if I go conventional stud construction, which doesn't require drawings, I STILL would have to have grade-stamped lumber! AAArrrgggghhh! Can ya tell I'm just a leeetle frustrated at all the fine laws enacted to protect me? I'll simply play the game, and build the minimum required to satisfy the Man, and then get on with my life. I envy those of you who live in places where your property is still yours to do what you want with. (Steps down off of soap box).
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03/28/08, 07:17 PM
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If you count the battons using the 36 inch door as a guide it is a 16X24. The price is comperable to what I charge on one with less detail. I would have charged $ 8500 without the concrete floor or cupala. I also mill the lumber myself.
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I just measured and it is 24'X32'. Dh actually built the cupola himself.
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