Have you seen my dog??

Ok -sorry - but I can't let this one go by -
CUMB as stone????
Sorry.

I also think you did the right thing especially since this happened before. I probably wouldn't have been so nice about, though! I've had that happen around here, I told the offending mongrel's owner that I would shoot the dog on sight if it was ever on my place again. Seemed to work - neither the mutt or the owner has been here since......
Recently, we've had two dogs abandoned near here (owners moved out). One showed up on our doorstep and we found her first owners. The other won't come within 35' of us and has been sniffing around the chicken house. Haven't seen it for a couple weeks, so it's probably been shot, so I won't have to.

Let me add, you should have asked for her address.

I have a problem neighbor who's dogs kill livestock. When it happened to me, I bagged up the bloody chickens in a clear plastic bag. Took it over to her house with the bill. Made sure her husband heard my conversation at the door and her young children. I drop the bloody bag of chickens on her porch and started to leave. She asked me what was in the bag and why I was leaving it. I said, "your dog purchased the chickens when it killed them. They are yours, now that you wrote me a check. The ground is froozen and I'm not going to dig a hole to bury them. You will have to find a way to dispose of them."

I am sure this left a good impression on the kids and husband.

I have a friend who had a husky that killed her chickens- she tied one of the dead chickens on the dogs back, kept the dog outside for a week and that dog never even looked at the free range chickens in her yard again. Years later, that dog shows mild interest in some meat hen chicks but never touched them.

Seems harsh, but the the result was a good one.

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I think it's called a typo .

They don't learn....

Had a small terrier type dog come over and kill newborn lambs. I asked the people to keep him at home. "Oh, he's too small to kill a sheep." They were an older couple, and this was a pretty little dog, and their compainon. So, I got soft-hearted. The NEXT time it killed a newborn lamb, I drove over to the neighbors, and showed it to them. Suggested they check Fido's teeth for wool. No comment, and no offer to pay for the lamb.

They kept him up for about 3 weeks. The LAST time he came over, the .223 came out. Didn't get a clean shot, and he got off the property before he died. Old woman called me and cussed me out for killing her dog. Pardon me, but you killed your own dog by not keeping him up.

They don't learn.

2 years ago, at this place, I came home to my chickens scattered in places they don't normally go. A few tailfeathers missing. Hmmm.....Walking around the side yard, I come across a little Min Pin stretched out, dead as a doornail. Well, it had found the raccoon bait I had in the barn. I took a pitchfork and transferred the dog to the pasture gate, meaning to take it to the buzzard buffet area.

I was working out in the pasture a little later, and a couple in their late twenties come walking by. Seems they're looking for their dog. Hmmm..Does it have a red collar? Yep, it's over by the barn. Been chasing my chickens, and got into the bait. The young woman cried and cried. Well, she NEVER let the dog out. Ha. Then that was a pretty good trick the dog pulled. No repercussions, though.

Fast forward til the next Thanksgiving. What shows up in my yard, but another black Min Pin! The chickens were in the barn, and I was going to Tday dinner, so don't know if the dog got back across the highway or not.

There's a reason God compares people to sheep....we're not too bright! And LOTS of people are so self-involved that they don't consider others.

I'm glad you shot the Husky. They don't really make good pets, and they are AWESOME killing, digging, running machines. I think it's best if they're kept in the city.

As a owner of a Husky, I can say, that there is some missunderstanding and somewhat ignorant comments about Husky's here.

Yes the owner was stupid and irresponsible which resulted in a dead dog and IMO rightfully so.

Yes, Husky's have a strong predation instinct, that's a fact.They are not untrainable, uncontrollable, killing machines, that don't make good pets. It's ignorant and irresponsible owners that don't try to understand and do what it takes to responsibly own them and give them what they need to be happy dogs.

I understand that if my husky gets out and someone decides to sss, I hope it's because he really did do the offence and not someone shooting him out of ignorance and assumption that he's a wolf (which I've had people claim he is ) and that he intends harm but didn't. I also know that there is the chance that I'll get a bill for damages and will accept responsiblity for my dogs actions, as long as it's proveable MY dog did it, not the many other dogs running the neighborhood on a daily basis instead of my once in a blue moon occurance.

Sure I don't leave my dog unattended outside with my animals, but he has shown extreme control over his natural desire to predate our birds. Early on he did kill two of our birds, since then he's never been unattended. He doesn't try to get them and shows concern and stress when they get close to them, he knows we were displeased with him and he doesn't wish to do that again.

Anyway, even as a Husky owner I agree with the OP's handling of the situation, I just think there are some erroneous comments about the breed in general.

Reese

Good for you Michelle, I think you handled it brilliantly.

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Sorry if I offended you Reese. I didn't say huskys were untrainable, but I've lost a LOT of livestock to dogs, and Huskys were right there at the top of the heap when it came to killing.

Many people got Huskys after a couple movies came out. BAD REASON. It happens with every dog breed that's in a movie. They don't/won't take the time to research the breed to see if they are a fit. They don't/won't take the time to train/spay/contain their dog.

I've never shot a dog that wasn't killing livestock.

I've also never been compensated for livestock killed by some idiot's dog.

But I'm not bitter! LOL!

I just have low/no tolerance for irresponsible dog owners. I'm tired...

You did the right thing.

I too have lost poultry birds to huskies, and seen other bird owners take losses to huskies. I don't feel kindly to huskies at all unless they're pulling a dog-sled, which is the only thing they're good for as far as I'm concerned. They sure as heck don't belong anywhere around farms.

I spent 11 long years developing a new variety of domestic duck through careful genetic manipulation and breeding, got them registered as such with the American Poultry Association. Then had nearly the entire flock of breeding stock wiped out within 10 minutes by a husky who's owners had let it off leash on my property while they were walking it on the dike. It also attacked me and badly injured one of my dogs that tried to defend me and my flock. I killed the husky and demanded restitution from the owner but never got it. And there was my 11 years of hopes and dreams gone just like that.

I also saw my neighbour's flock of 89 out of 120 commercial laying birds inside their own barn get wiped out within half an hour by 2 huskies that were running loose and found their way into the barn. Those poor birds were all on morning nests and never had a chance. One of those dogs got shot and the other 1 got away, the owners were never found.

Huskies get a blood-lust on them when they see poultry or anything else that's small enough to be looked on as prey. They belong in the far north pulling a sled and nowhere else.


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Sure he isn't but only cause you give him a name! LOL in years of living in Alaska I never met a sled dog owner that wasn't bragging about how much wolf their dogs had in them. So why is yours different? They have been developed from wolves or at least continually bred back to them.

They are also strong people here tell of dog teams puling a "wagon" in summer to train. I guess most think of a radio flyer or small cart.What I have seen is usually a TRUCK! Thats been modified.

As for being untrainable thats bull sled dogs are some of the most highly trained animal athletes out there.

Can they be vicious? Yep a neighbor had a German Shepard that was crazy,it had been mistreated and abused all his life. He was quite proud of the way it had killed several dogs.
When he took it over to a dog sledders he was told very pointedly to keep it under control and take it home. He deliberately let it loose. The look on his face was priceless when it attacked a sled dog and was killed AND EATEN!

YOU KILLED MY DOG! WHAT DOG?

You did the right thing. But.

The problem is that regardless of the law if you get pulled into some sort of trial you never know what will happen. Our society is slopping over with overemotional anthropomorphic sentimentality and when pet animals are involved all bets are off. You get a bunch animal loons lined up against you and despite what ever legal justification they'll be candlelight vigils wailing and blubbering like you've never imagined.

Unfortunately given the hordes of nutcases influencing things these days shutting up about having to kill a stray pet animal is the best policy.

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You did right. This way she won't kid herself that somebody "stole it because it was so pretty" and is less likely to spend the money on another one then let it run to your house.

She's not going to come sneaking around to get even. She knows you have a gun and that you can kill what you're aiming at.

We have Hightensil in the field. I am very happy with it. I put up a 4 wire to start then moved to 6 wire. It can hold most anything.

The bottom wire are closer then the top to keep dogs out. It works great now. Just with the 4 wire. The dogs stull got in. The would stick their head and half a leg in. Get a shock and be sent INTO the fenced area. So we added two more wires.

Also, this has been the cheapest fence with the least maint I have owned.

...and the rooster from before.

Nope, you did exactly right.

So you have to let a dog kill all your livestock if you don't have a camera handy? Somehow I don't think so...

The law as quoted above doesn't even require that livestock actually be harmed, merely that you have a belief that it might be harmed. Pics of the dog caught in the act not required.

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I would have told her that I shot her dog and threw the carcase in with my pigs. I would also inform her that she was welcome to enter my pigpen to retrieve whatever was left.

She needed to be told what harm her animal was causing. It's too bad she wasn't on hand to watch it die.

Pete

If one paw of his drops on my land I would drill that dog with a 303 slug so fast it would make your head spin. I've spent a large amount of cash to ensure MY dogs stay on MY property. You should do the same.

Then again, I'm pretty sure two farm raised German Shepherds could take care of a lonely husky.

Pete

That's nice, I hope you apply that rule to ANY breed/mut dog/cat whatever that sets a foot on your property, whether it's there to do harmful intent or not.

I get down right irritated with all the dogs and cats running our neighborhood, using my yard as their dumping ground, but I'm not going to shoot them until I have a valid reason to.

Likewise, if for some reason your dogs leave your property, I hope you would extend the same courtesy of expectations to others that you provide.

Just like Pit Bulls, there are owners that raise them in a respectful manner with an understanding of their breed and don't raise them to be aggressive or to attack. Even the most benign dog breed can be an attack dog if trained to be. Just like working on genetics in livestock, same goes for dogs. It just depends on the purpose of the use on what genes are focused on when in breeding and then in training.

I understand there are many poor reasons for people to get animals, when the next best craze after a movie comes out without the understanding of how to manage their pets and their instincts. That's one of my pet peeves (no pun intended), people that take on an animal w/o knowing what to expect and do their utmost best to manage it, and then don't understand and respect when/if it gets out of ones control and has a negetive impact on another and compensate for your animals behavior. Whether it's the goats getting out and eating the neighbors prized roses, or your cat using the neighbor kid's sandbox as a litter box, your cow tromping through your neighbors produce garden, or your dog killing another's livestock...or making life worrisome to even live w/o stress on ones own property, it's all an infringement on others property enough to make life a bit costly or annoying, so don't act surprised or be annoyed when you are asked to compensate for the damage your animal has caused.

I won't assume others are bad animal owners if it's only a very occasional 'getting' out thing, even the most diligent of owners has the occasional breakout, it's the consistant free roaming animal's or when an owner chooses to let their animals free roam, that are lax animal owners. I also think it's perfectly acceptable if one kills another's "pet" in defense of ones own family and animals, but not unprovoked killing, just because the animal exists and steps foot on ones property is not a valid reason for killing the animal.

The OP was in the right of things, by his animals and his family, by law and by ethics...period.

Hm. I notice the Google ad above this thread reads: "Would you like to finally SOLVE your loving dog urination behavior problems?"

I guess SSS would do that, but it seems a little harsh.

LOL, not to some people I would think.

Thats an interesting perspective....

Personally I agree with everything you did, BUT, I don't know if I woulda said anything. She deserved to know...and she and her dog had it coming, to be sure.....but if she is that irresponsible in the first place, and of a nonchalant attitude about people and their property/lively-hood, I would be afraid, not so much from a lawsuit, but from personal property damage as a backlash for killing her dog.....just to be spiteful. I would have probably taken the ignorant route, asking if it was chasing livestock and mentioning it prolly got shot.


Anyway.....you did the right thing.

~~Danny~~

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