question about lead poisoning.

Little Quacker in OR · #21 11/02/07, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieDavid

I guess if I had a gizzard that has the function of grinding up particles with rocks (including lead shot) into small enough pieces to be absorbed into the blood stream I would be concerned. Still, your comment is well taken.....when in doubt....spit it out LOL.

Cheapskate- I wonder if the lung cancer was related to inhalation hazards associated with sulfuric acid?

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Actually ducks don't have gizzards. LOL However I think we may be missing the point here? It's children that the concern is based on...their bodies are much more vulnerable to these types of metal poisonings. They are still growing and developing. That's the concern.

I have no idea just how dangerous these toys are. But I'd not want my new grandson to be surrounded by and chomping on anything like those toys. Also, what else do you suppose is wrong with them? I don't know but it's clear they are really not tested. I am all for the handcarved toys myself and I hope any of you carvers out there have a surge in business!

LQ

Ed Norman · #22 11/02/07, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Quacker in OR

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Actually ducks don't have gizzards. LOL
LQ

That might come as a big surprise to all the ducks out there with gizzards.

Little Quacker in OR · #23 11/02/07, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Norman

That might come as a big surprise to all the ducks out there with gizzards.

I wouldn't josh you Ed. LOL Dabbling ducks have no true gizzard like chickens do. I know it's popular to characterize that tube of muscle that way..that's OK, but butcher out a duck and a chicken. Most ducks get lead shot stored in the stomach. There is however an endemic species of Irish trout...I kid you not... that has a gizzard. It's a strange and wonderful world.

LQ

OkieDavid · #24 11/02/07, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Quacker in OR

LOL Dabbling ducks have no true gizzard.

LQ

You might want to pass that tidbit of information over to the USGS who have quantified the incidence of lead shot contamination between the dabblers....Wonder why Federal Biologists would refer to it as a gizzard?

http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/b...n/ingested.htm

watcher · #25 11/02/07, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Lindsay

Ever been to the special ed class in a school? Or a homeless shelter? Not so say lead did it all, but between drugs, household/industrial chemicals, heavy metals, and genetic defects, there are plenty of brain damaged people out there. There is no reason to keep something around we can replace/substitute fairly easily. Some people's bodies can't dispose of heavy metals as well as others, might explain why some suffer and some don't. The largest side effect of leaded gasoline was high blood pressure, you don't know anyone who has died of heart disease do you?

I never said that lead wasn't dangerous, I just said that I think that it is being over hyped. Its like we are looking for something to panic over. Today its lead. Yesterday it was mercury. The day before it was asbestos. Before that it was alar<sp>, DDT et al.

If I took what I saw on TV today to heart I should be a drooling moron. When I was a kid I lived in a house with lead solder on the pipes, most likely (I'm not sure) had lead based paint in on and around it, used leaded gasoline for cleaning parts and the like, ate food that had been cooked with lead shot in them, soldered tons of wires with lead solder, cast lead fishing weights and bullets as well as had a large bottle of mercury that was used for all kinds of things it should not have been.