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Would you, Call the sheriff's Dept. If A NEW dog in the area. Tried to get onto your land, Thru the fence I called, And they are NOW talking to Jose, to tell him his Collie needs to be KEPT tied. So there won't be Any trouble! Right or wrong????

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No because it wouldn't do any good If it came on my property and caused problems Id SSS.

Right - Nip it in the bud --- Nip it...

Personally, I'd never contact the law first. I always felt contacting the owner of the a problem animal is the first step. If the owner neglects the situation enough, than I just have to break down from being "mr. nice guy" and try and take matters into my own hands, or get the law, if they will even bother to come out here. Give em a chance or two first to correct the problem, than take order. Thats just my way I guess.

You must have a huge law enforcement budget in your area. Nobody would come out for a loose dog that hadn't yet menaced the stock, even if you'd just had a problem. Even problems are dealt with by phone. Here, they expect a landowner will simply shoot the offender. That's what I'd suggest. You've already had a problem, and you neighbors know it, they've been sufficiently warned. SSS.

no, because if you have animals sometime another you will have one that gets out. and you will see how it feels to have the cops called just because your animals are over at the neighbors place.

Well,down here in ranching country if your dog is out you best find it pronto or it will be shot. That's plain it. We've had our problems with roaming dogs and they are no more. If I know who they are and know they keep them fenced/tied I will call them but if they are strange dogs its too bad. Had too many lambs killed,sheep mauled,chickens killed to be nice anymore. In our very first dealings with a neighbor down here he asked us why we didn't shoot his dog if it was down here running our stock! Then he took it home and shot it dead!!!!!!!! Said he wouldn't have a dog like that around. Gulp. When you've just raised 50 chickens and a neighbors pet gets in and kills them for entertainment it isn't a laughing matter. Note,our two dogs are fenced behind chain link and have never gotten out...likewise all the good neighbors on this road...generally it is the renters around the corner that seem to change monthly. DEE

Had a couple strays around here last year. One got away before I could shoot it - the other didn't. Same way with cats. If I see a stray, SSS.

In large parts of the country, even those areas with lots of "homesteaders", SSS=Jail time.

And rightly so.

if they are on my property and killing or harassing my livestock sss. the only way sss=jail time or fine is if you tell someone about it then its not sss :)

I will say that if it is a neighbors dog i would have a talk with them before ever doing anything sss or calling the law.

Well its hard to talk,To them when they Pull No-Speak-A-English. And the sherriffs dept. Here will respond to Animal call! This is the 1st time the Collie has been out, So I wanted them to get The point!

No jail time here, even if it ISN'T SSS. If a dog (or cat) is on your property without your consent, you have the right to shot it. If I know who the dog belongs to, then I'll talk to the owner, if it's a strange one, then he better duck. Of course, there is ONE that I KNOW who owns it, that will be "done in" if I see it on my place again (yes I told the owner).

IF you see no collar call the sheriff or animal control. If you think it belongs to someone you might know, contact them first. To all those that would shoot without question, you better pray its not mine. If you shoot my dog for just showing up at your place doing you no harm. Now you have something to worry about,me finding out.

What you dont seem to understand is that your dog "just showing up" is I repeat IS DOING HARM its mear preasance is damaging in a lot of situations.
Why not keep it home near you who value it so much? :shrug:

If I KNOW it's yours, I'll call you - ONCE. After that........

If a dog is causing problems, in other words, chasing livestock. It's fair game for being shot as long as it has no collar. If it has a collar, I'll try to find out who it belongs to, and go talk to them. I don't believe in killing something just because it is there. I have neighbors I would like to get along with, so being fair about it is only right.

If you don't know who's dog it is and he's not harming anything, ask around or call the sheriff. If he has a collar call the owner, if its me once will be enough. If he's killing your livestock shoot him and call me and I'll pay for the livestock and the bullet. But just don't up and shoot him for being there. No good will come from that. You will just create a bigger problem than the dog. I don't think you would like for someone to shoot your dog,cat,horse, or cow for just showing up at someones place.

really? are you threatening humans with bodily harm?

thats real smart. you cant control your own property so you are going to threaten people.

good job brain child

see if the owner will discuss it and be civil about it.

If he wont then SSS

I'll do my best to try and call or talk to the owner if known. If it happens again I'll sss. We don't have enough troopers as it is and I would hate to have one busy with a dog issue when they could really be needed elsewhere.

I agree!!

Of course not,If you discuss it with me, like you say in your next post which is the right thing to do, then I will do the right thing, get him off of your property and make what he damaged of yours good. I would treat you with the same respect should it be your dog on my property. But if you show no respect and shoot my dog if he's not harmed anything or anyone then go ahead and find out wether it was a threat or not. Oh lighten up on the name calling thats not nice either.

I have yet to see a stray dog that would let me just walk up and read its collar. The animal control laws in my state clearly state that not only do I have a right to shoot a dog that is harassing or killing livestock on my property but I can also charge the dogs owner for any damage that it caused.

Go back and read my post, I agree.

Sorry, double post.

Not arguing the law. It's the same here in Missouri as far as I know.

I like to keep good neighbors, killing someones pet and not making the effort to remedy the situation before having to result to that just makes sense to me :)

There are many variables on this situation though, not much of any way to cover them all. But I do make the effort to resolve it peacefully if I can.

The sad thing is, it's usually not the dog to blame, as much as an irresponsible owner.

What can I say, Been here, didn't take control. Called with the owner only to be told he would take care of the problem, he would lock up the dog, 7 months and 27 birds later, we had to go to court. Never trust an owner, I know there are responsible dog owners, I hope they are one of them and then there are the others that will tell you they will take care of it, but don't.. Always call, make sure you document everything.

ODD - I was just outside about an hour ago and my dogs started barking like crazy. I looked over and saw a Jack Russel sniffing around. I KNOW who belongs to this dog, so I didn't do anything. It's the first time I've seen it over here. I calls ONCE - after that....
Livestock is a whole 'nuther issue. You don't shoot livestock, you call and they fix the fence, or whatever.

If I see a dog on my property, I would probably call out to it. If it stood there barking at me, my kids, or my livestock, I would call the owner, if I knew them.

If it hung around and continued to be a threat, I'm afraid it's going to be off to meet it's maker. The local authorities would laugh me out of town if I called them about a dog on my property -- and if I'm not comfortable letting my kids be outside because it's lurking around, I'm afraid my answer to any owner who might show up after the fact would be "You should have kept it home, then".

We have a dog. I told the boys early on that she needed to be supervised and kept in our yard at all times. Anything else is asking for trouble. If she gets on the road, she could be hit, if she gets into the bush along the headland, she could step in a trap. If she shows up at the yard of any of our cattlemen neighbors, the temptation of their cattle might prove too much, and she'll end up shot, and I would certainly understand why.

A running dog is NOT a good thing. If they are at liberty they'd better be well trained enough to stay at home, or the owner needs to be ready to accept the consequences.

James, if I were you, and the animal showed up in my yard, it would depend ENTIRELY on how it reacted to being confronted as to how I would deal with it. If you know the animal's owner, call them. If they pull the "I no speak English" thing, simply tell them what you would say if they DID speak English and hang up. Fair warning has been given. I think they'll figure out "keep your dog home or it's going to get shot" quick enough. If the dog continues to make a nuisance of itself, I'd probably try the calling the law if I thought it would do any good -- here, I know it wouldn't. The police would simply tell me to deal with my neighbor and inform me of my right to shoot the animal if it is harassing my livestock.

If, at any time, you feel threatened by the animal, I'd SSS. No sense in making enemies by bragging on shooting the animal, just do what is legal and keep it quiet.

First off how sweet of you to be willing to control your dog only AFTER Ive been hurt.
So you cant control your dog but you expect me a total stranger to be able to? Not only that you expect me to spend all my time watching out for your dog?
Ill bet a dollar that when your dog gets out and you get him back you sure dont go around to everyone with in the possable range he visited and ask if they have suffered and dog damage and offer to reimburse them .

I notice you dont want to reply to what to do if his presence is enough to damage things.

And in the end what I really want to know is will you really make good when he does $50,000 or more in damage? Do you have the resorces to make good on your brag?

Im sorry but past experiance leaves me a bit skeptical.

If you live amongst a scarce amount of people, I'd be darn if I'm gonna fly off the handle right off the bat and plug a problem dog, only to loose the respect of a local or even the entire family, when being on "good terms" is priceless. I would refrain from playing a rugged Clint Eastwood and just stick some lead in someone elses dog, just because it's the "West", or "ranch country", or "thats what everyone else would do around here" I live in an area, where it's give every fair chance to a guy before you get rough. Respect must be maintained in this world at all costs, escpecially if you are dealing with the few folks you have to live with the rest of your life. If you live in the heavier settlements, respect should still be given and a chance offered, even though the problem's owner(s) might seem like just another person in a sea of others. Give everybody the benifit of the doubt at first and a chance or two, Then, if you got to get a little dirty, at least you know you made a good attempt.

Just this afternoon about 5 or 5:30 I was in my deerstand and guess what showed up, two black pitbull mixes I think. Somefolks might have shot them. They were on my land and with the recent laws pertaining to those kind of dogs probably could have shot them lawfully. I did not, but tomorrow I will find the owner and we will talk and solve the problem. If he's the kind that don't care, I'll solve the problem but,not without giving him the chance to solve it himself. I would not want to be treated any differently. Just give me that chance is all I ask. All I have are hunting dogs, when they are out Im out till I get them back except on rare occasions. I've hunted for over 50 yrs. and not once have I heard of any of my dogs harming anyone or anything and I've never encountered over those 50 yrs. anyone that would even think about shooting my dogs.Now on this forum I'm finding folks that say they would shoot my dog for just showing up at your place and not doing anyone or anything harm. Please if any of you folks that would shoot a dog on sight live around eastern NC, Let me know where so I can avoid having my dogs in your area, Because I don't know what I would do, and I Don't want to find out.

I've always found that if you ignore someone making stupid remarks long enough they will make a fool out of themselves sooner or later and its worked every time.

Last year we had a beagle having sport with our chickens...didn't kill any and while I was fetching the gun, the wife called the dog off and he was getting a belly rub when I got back. Had a collar but the tag was outdated. Had a unique sounding name so I looked in the phone book and found only two people with that surname so I called and talked to the owners grandmother who gave him our number. He was out once we contacted him within the hour to pick up the dog...taking off work to do so. When he arrived he said he was sorry and asked the dog was much trouble. When I told him about the chickens he seemed to dismiss it as dogs doing what dogs to. Just as he was leaving I stopped him and said "since he chases chickens, if I find him again, doing the same thing, you won't be getting a call from me again." It took a second for it to soak in what I was saying and once again he appologized.

On a similar note, there were two dogs who lived about a mile down the road was making sport of my FIL's goats. Didn't kill any but tore one up pretty bad. When the FIL called the game warden he was told that any animal that is attacking live stock can be shot on sight. But he also suggested the SSS avenue. Dogs owners did agree to pay vet bill but were really supprised just how much it was. More than what I felt the goat was worth myself but hey, wasn't my goat.

So far I have been lucky with our dogs, if one of the family members is not outside, and they are, they will be waiting at the door once they answer the call of nature. They all know that they are not to even be in front of the house for any reason and will sit at the top of the hill and watch us check the mail and rejoin us when we get close enough.

EB I see ,your rudeness in how you make others deal with your dogs seems to carry thru to here with those whom you debate.

If a dog shows up around here it takes a dirt nap. It isn't like the owner can't drag home another one to replace it. Oh and they will and you'll have to dig a few more holes before they figure out that a roving rover doesn't come back home. If they're such a valued and precious possession they should keep them secured.

If my dog gets onto someone else's property he deserves to be shot dead. A dog (or cat) is a menace running loose and it is my fault for not securing it properly. Kill it. I won't mind.

nah, around here, if he was wagging his tail I would call him over and make friends with him.... check for some tags.
No tags, I'll tie him up and go visit the neighbors.
tags, I will call the neighbors.

If he is unfriendly, he may get shot.

Enough of my neighbors have shot "unfriendly stray dogs" enough for everyone to know what will happen.

If he is friendly and a persistent visitor with no tags, the shelter will get a new inmate. We should give friendly dogs an even break it isnt their fault they are loose and untagged.

people are crazy.... you have to think before you act to rashly.

thats how bullet holes get in your house.

If I were in a deerstand they'd have a chance; since I wouldn't be terrified of them. But since I don't have a deerstand they'd be on my level. If they didn't kill me (as 3 great dane mixes did a woman about my size a few miles from our otehr homestead) or my smaller dog or my DD7 I'd be sure to have a weapon to kill them next time they came by, unless they came up smiling and asking for a belly rub, or ran off as soon as they spotted me, rather than growling and menacing me as most dogs who see me and don't run away do. I WOULD let their owners if I knew who they were know they'd gotten out and were too scary for me to have in my yard with my kids.

Sure, had I been on the ground and they were acting aggresive in any way, Bam, But I think I know who their owner is and this afternoon I will take care of the problem. I saw these same to dogs back during the summer and I guess I should have contacted him then, but I will today.I try to get along with folks because no matter how hard you try to keep animals penned up, every now and then one will get out, And all anyone has to do is call me and all I have to do is call them. As long as we can get along like that,things will be ok, But if I was to shoot someones dog for just being on my land, I'd better stay out of the animal business because there would be h**l to pay. Must be why no one lives around here that would do that,or at least not for long. :)