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01/07/13, 10:36 PM
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Too true, Ross!
I use it for ear mites in cats as well (same mite that causes mange in dogs), and of course, there are goats to be wormed.....I'll bet if a fecal test was done on *me*, I'd come up clean!
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01/07/13, 10:38 PM
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Miniature Horse lover
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Originally Posted by Ross
I thought it was used in N America for some things on Humans. My vet brought it up if I remember right. I think most farmers that have tried the cattle pour on version have accidentally tried it! 
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Ya that is probably true. LOL
I had the amount to give to dogs when I had my Great Pry. My best friend is a vet tech. And had the amount, it isn't much for a med sized dog at all.
And Ivermectin has such a safety built in, that even if you accidentally give a Horse size dose to a small miniature horse they should be ok. It is like 10 times over the amount. And as far as horses goes that sure is not the case in most other dewormers.
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01/08/13, 02:03 AM
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I hate to inform you but heartguard which is vet approved for collies is ivermectin just in a very low dose. Just enough to be mostly effective.
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I know vets give it to dogs that don't have the blood brain barrier. But there is still a lot of people who recite the "ivermectin is dangerous" mantra. But I have seen them do it. And vets also give it to hw+ dogs to bring down the load. But still you see people who know nothing about it reciting that same mantra. There is too much false information out there in the hands of layman who thing they are correct.
And it is used in humans for parasites. It is a wonderful drug if used in the correct dosage.
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01/08/13, 07:41 AM
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the third kind of mange mekasmom mentioned shows up as a heavy dandruff, it dosent cause hair loss, not like others, but is a heavy dandruff, that cakes like cradle cap in babies
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01/08/13, 08:34 AM
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walking dandruff?
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01/08/13, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Teri
We have a lab with this same problem. The vet is treating her for food allergies. Right now she is on special meds (total of 6 pills a day) and food ($40/bag). It's expensive, and I'm not convinced that's what's wrong with her. My question is...is the mange contagious to other dogs? We also have a beagle who is unaffected. Does this mean the lab probably does not have mange? Anyone know?
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We ended up putting this dog down. The skin problems were driving her crazy and she was getting increasingly aggressive to the point I couldn't trust her around the kids. We spent thousands of dollars and our vet had tried everything he could think of.
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01/08/13, 09:38 AM
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A couple of things... my Collie has been genetically tested for the mutation and has it. It cost me about $60, but I know to avoid Ivermectin with her and have a list of other drugs that would be expected to be a problem too. It can be a problem and we don't have a heartworm problem here, so I'm not concerned about that. If I travel with her, I will work with my vet to be sure she is safe.
As for the horse paste, the reply mentioned fenbendazole. This is a very safe drug, even if overdosed. If I remember right, the worst reaction in the clinical trials was an upset tummy. With THIS drug (remember each drug is different, be exact), dogs require 10 times the dose per body weight as a horse, the horse paste is perfectly safe (though off label, though fenbendazole is used as a dog wormer on label in other formulations). I have used it for decades on my dogs (after a consult with my vet), even my 10 lbs Silky Terriers. The worst reactions were in dogs with a heavy worm load the first day of a three day worming - some of them had an upset tummy. The theory was that fenbendazole allows the dog to digest the parasites and a dog with a heavy parasite load had an upset from digesting all the parasites! The horse wormer saves me significant money over the years and kept my show dogs in gorgeous condition!
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01/08/13, 11:01 AM
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A couple of things... my Collie has been genetically tested for the mutation and has it. It cost me about $60, but I know to avoid Ivermectin with her and have a list of other drugs that would be expected to be a problem too. It can be a problem and we don't have a heartworm problem here, so I'm not concerned about that. If I travel with her, I will work with my vet to be sure she is safe.
As for the horse paste, the reply mentioned fenbendazole. This is a very safe drug, even if overdosed. If I remember right, the worst reaction in the clinical trials was an upset tummy. With THIS drug (remember each drug is different, be exact), dogs require 10 times the dose per body weight as a horse, the horse paste is perfectly safe (though off label, though fenbendazole is used as a dog wormer on label in other formulations). I have used it for decades on my dogs (after a consult with my vet), even my 10 lbs Silky Terriers. The worst reactions were in dogs with a heavy worm load the first day of a three day worming - some of them had an upset tummy. The theory was that fenbendazole allows the dog to digest the parasites and a dog with a heavy parasite load had an upset from digesting all the parasites! The horse wormer saves me significant money over the years and kept my show dogs in gorgeous condition!
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As I pointed out the problem with using the horse paste is the in ability to be sure the dog is getting the proper amount each time due to the fact the med may not be evenly distributed.
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01/08/13, 12:24 PM
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Ivomec is so wonderful, thanks to it's use by cattlemen the humble tumble bug has been exterminated here in Mo.! Now they all spend big bucks a fightin the resulting overpopulation of flies an their maladies! If the EPA rally cared anything for the environment it would be banned!
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