Ivomec medication for dogs / sarcoptic mange

They don't sell that OTC at pharmacies any longer. You might try the lice killer that they have on the shelf now? I'm not sure what chemical is in it, but you can get it at WalMart or any chain store like that. It's what they use on humans for lice.

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I wanted to add the scholar links to this too. They used four times the amount instead of three for both sarcoptic and demodectic mange.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl...%2C14&as_sdtp=

This one says ivermectin toxicity was avoided by using it orally instead of injecting subcutaneously. They used the ivo/moxi combo.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...04401700003575

And in this one they used 6x the amount normally given for heartworms, and gave it orally. I would be afraid to do that myself.
http://agris.fao.org/agris-search/se...l;TH2001004050

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You could try the alternative to Ivermec: Vet Tricorder
http://readwrite.com/2013/01/02/extr...ct-of-ces-2013

This was an OLD thread. Someone is going through the archives and bringing up things from years and years ago.

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Fish oil, mixed in with their food will usually cure itchiness, it'll take a few weeks but its worth it.

Just saw this is a 6 year old thread.

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Here is something to think about. I did a great deal of testing at home and found my lab has an allergy to pork and carrots.
The heart worm pill i was giving her every month had a small amount of pork in it. Enough to trigger a reaction from her tho.
She had terrible itchy sores, repeated ear infections, ect.
We bathed,medicated and we even went so far as to take her to a state veterinary hospital. We fed her bags of special dog food that cost $80.00 a bag.
Once we made the heart worm pill connection,
we took her off that and the vet gives her an injection once a month now for heart worms. She did much better after that. However, during really hot parts of summer she still got a few areas on skin that would flare up.
We shaved her down to the skin last summer once and left it to grow back out before winter. That allowed sun and air to get down on her skin and that helped a great deal too. If you own a lab you know how THICK and dense their fur is. Once the skin gets irritated down under all that fur, it's hard to get it cleared up.
I may never know all the answers as to why she still gets a few sores in hot weather, but I'm letting you know what has worked for us. SHe is 12 and we've been battling this for years.

OOps, didn't realize this was an old tread. Oh well maybe it will help someone else.

I didn't see that. It just showed up under New Posts. Sorry.
I hope he didn't accidentally kill his dogs.

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Those are hot spots. You can shave away the extra fur and apply hydrocortisone. Sometimes they need some dex from the vet. But they are called hot spots. Shaving away the covering fur is the most important part of treatment.

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Yes, I think it is what happened to us. My dogs and never leave the property, yet all of a sudden Sarcoptic mange was upon us. Our local MFA tells me that coyotes have been shot and found the pelts useless because of mange. Even the squirrels carry it and this time of year he said it is real bad.

You'll come out FAR cheaper to do it yourself, and the PROPER treatment is DAILY doses until a couple of weeks after symptoms disappear.
You can get a 50 ML bottle for about $45

Use !% injectible Ivomec, given ORALLY, at 1/10th ML per 10 lbs of body weight.
For Heartworms ONLY, 1/10 ML TOTAL every 4-6 weeks is sufficient.

Your Vet should KNOW if it's mange by doing a skin scraping

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I personally see it a very helpful. At least current links are provided if nothing else. Besides I need to review things like this once in awhile. Nice to have fresh on the mind when the issue comes up.

Since we are beating the dead horse anyway LOL Mekasmom is the only person I saw mention both manges. There is sarcoptic and demodectic mange. Sarcoptic is contagious from animal to animal (coyote/dog, cat/ dog, coyote/cat, dog/human, etc), demodectic is inherited and used to be called "red mange". Demodectic can also affect organs and circulation. I have seen a dog's leg swell to 3 times normal size because demodexosis kept the fluid trapped. Demodex mites are present on all dogs, but usually kept in check, it's when the system doesn't work that the dog shows symptoms. If you catch it early and treat aggressively, you can keep it in remission so the dog can have a healthy life. I always get my vet's advice because a skin scraping isn't expensive and I want to be sure what I'm fighting. JMO

There are actually three types of mange. The other one is called Cheyletilosis (I think). I am not really familiar with that one though. When I was helping at the vet's office, it was mentioned, but I don't think any dog ever actually had it.

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Cool! I learned my something new today Looking it up says anything that treats the other manges works on them. Also called "walking dandruff" because the mites carry skin scales along with them.

You need to be careful using horse paste. Because the doses are so large, for horses that is, the med isn't always thoroughly mixed throughout the tube. IOW, the small blob you use to dose one dog may have next to no med in it while the blob for another may be almost all med.

We self med all of our dogs, except for rabies which are legally forbidden to do, and the only "dog" med we use is praziquantal to kill off tapeworms as needed.

PLEASE do a LOT of research before trying this. There's a lot of bad and/or wrong info out there.

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I hate to inform you but heartguard which is vet approved for collies is ivermectin just in a very low dose. Just enough to be mostly effective.

If ivermectin and milbemycin is dangerous, why do we still give it to dogs that could have an MDR1 gene mutation?

The key to remember here is the dosage. Dogs who are sensitive to ivermectin can be negatively affected if they receive a dose of 50-100 micograms per kilogram. The amount of ivermectin that is in a dose of Heartgard is 6-12 micograms per kilogram and is not at all toxic to dogs even if they are carrying the MDR1 gene mutation.
For milbemycin, dogs with the MDR1 gene mutation can see neurological side effects at a dose of about 90 micograms per kilogram. Interceptor and sentinel usually delivers about 7-10 micograms per kg of milbemycin to the dog.
Both drugs are very safe to give to any dog as long as we give the recommended dosage.

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For heartworms we use sheep drech which is .08% or 800 mcg/cc. The dose in heartguard 2.72mcg/pound. We give it at around 5.5 mcg/cc which works out to about 0.37 cc for a 40 pound dog. This means you have to have a 1 cc syringe to dose it out. Squirt it onto a piece of bread and toss it to them.

FYI, a higher dose is no problem for most dogs. AAMOF, it is often given at much higher doses for other problems.

Years ago I messed up and wound giving our American Bulldog what turned out to be a dose 100 TIMES the dosage above for years. it never gave him any problems.

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Yes Ivermetin is so safe that in 3rd world countries they are using it on people to deworm them.

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ivomec works in my personal experience most of the hunters I know use it or horse wormer with ivomec it is rare to see any mange or mites or even fleas any more .when I was young it was a common plage . caution though I have heard some sheep and cattle dogs it can,t be used on . I use it to get rid of ear mites in rabbits and it works the best yet. just a few drops in the ear dogs a squirt in the mouth or shot under the skin .I,m not a vet just know what works for me .it will get rid of mites on chickens a few drops under the wings poured on the back of pigs

I thought it was used in N America for some things on Humans. My vet brought it up if I remember right. I think most farmers that have tried the cattle pour on version have accidentally tried it!

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