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10/02/07, 08:44 AM
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I'm me! YAY!
Anyway, I'm not looking to post on the board again. I don't mind debates. I do mind hypocrisy and being told what I am and am not allowed to say.
I have two little girls climbing on me, so I must go.
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I would consider such a banning as a badge of honor.
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10/02/07, 08:50 AM
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I was reading Why Animals Matter supported by the HSUS (I guess different from the SPCA and more like PETA than a pet rescue group?). Anyway their first chapters are on chickens- fine we ought to get eggs and broilers from chickens allowed to move/ see sun not pinned in cages- but RESCUING chickens to live out a life of freedom scratching and taking dirt baths? As in "we rescued 2000 laYers from chicken houses destroyed by Katrina" or something like that? If they'd saved that for last I might've gotten something out of the book about factory farming abuse of MAMMALS and they might have kept me along reading the whole book but I don't think I'll continue reading it.
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10/02/07, 09:22 AM
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Well, I went to the forum in question, and found that it quite clearly caters to the insane. So why would you expect anything but an insane response?
Don't get me wrong; I wholely support your position on the merits. I just think that the result was entirely predictable.
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10/02/07, 10:02 AM
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Seal clubber.
Professional rare animals trophy hunter.
Pet exterminator.
Whaler.
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Bull fighter.
Professional cock fighter
Fighting pit bull breeder
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10/02/07, 10:32 AM
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I agree with much of what everyone is say regarding eating the animals we raise for food. I do it and have done it for some time. What I have found is, the word "Slaughter" tends to make people think of something violent and a type of killing just for the sake of killing. I know that's not the case, but weather we like it or not, that seems to be the public's definition of the word. I try to move away from the offensive descriptions while talking to people that aren't part of the lifestyle. I use the phrase that certain animals at "meat animals" rather than saying the are being raised to be slaughtered. Just a choice of words really. Either you share your lifestyle delicately and raise little controversy, or you go at it with the intent to dramatize it. But if you choose the later, I don't see how you can ask for sympathy if someone finds it offensive and calls you on it. In truth, you said nothing wrong, however, the presentation wasn't as delicate as it could have been either. Just my opinion. We all have them, and they are all a little different.
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I think you might have considered this...you don't usually eat your friends.
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Maybe on a bad day....if they've been extremely annoying...and I missed breakfast AND lunch...
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10/02/07, 01:18 PM
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A woman once refused to sell me a rabbit. She asked WHY I wanted it, and I explained we needed new breeding stock for our meat rabbits. It was on a farm forum, for crying out loud, what did she think people wanted them for?
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10/02/07, 01:20 PM
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I love animals!........especially smoked with barbeque sauce. HE! HE!
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10/02/07, 04:09 PM
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I KNOW!!
a cook at an endangered species restaurant.
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This thread has led me to add Mrs. Hoppes to my LJ friends list, write a post to my LJ on my basic political views (feel free to come by & argue if you like  ), to ponder if maybe I am not in fact "liberal" by current definition, and to decide never to join the forum under discussion here.
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10/02/07, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JayinCT
I agree with much of what everyone is say regarding eating the animals we raise for food. I do it and have done it for some time. What I have found is, the word "Slaughter" tends to make people think of something violent and a type of killing just for the sake of killing. I know that's not the case, but weather we like it or not, that seems to be the public's definition of the word. I try to move away from the offensive descriptions while talking to people that aren't part of the lifestyle. I use the phrase that certain animals at "meat animals" rather than saying the are being raised to be slaughtered. Just a choice of words really. Either you share your lifestyle delicately and raise little controversy, or you go at it with the intent to dramatize it. But if you choose the later, I don't see how you can ask for sympathy if someone finds it offensive and calls you on it. In truth, you said nothing wrong, however, the presentation wasn't as delicate as it could have been either. Just my opinion. We all have them, and they are all a little different.
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I totally agree. When we slaughter we use the term. "Make meat" out of the animal. This was for the kids originally as they were toddlers at the time but would ask where the animal went. I've found it gets the point across.
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10/02/07, 07:05 PM
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This thread has led me to add Mrs. Hoppes to my LJ friends list, write a post to my LJ on my basic political views (feel free to come by & argue if you like  ), to ponder if maybe I am not in fact "liberal" by current definition, and to decide never to join the forum under discussion here.
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It took me a few minutes to fugure out who you were when I got the e-mail.
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10/02/07, 07:47 PM
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It took me a few minutes to fugure out who you were when I got the e-mail. 
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That's why I use the same name everywhere, though, to give people a chance of figuring it out.  If I was ailsaek one place and goatandcatgrrrrrl (not that I have goats yet, but I want them) another and davidandkathysmom someplace else, *I* wouldn't even be able to remember who I was.
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10/02/07, 08:21 PM
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I once joined a rescue-oriented rabbit forum because I have several beloved pet bunnies and I didn't think it would matter that I also raise meat rabbits. Wellll...I once used the "wrong" term for a male rabbit, someone tracked down my website through my email address, and I got a barrage of nasty emails and messages. You'd think I was Stalin, for pete's sake.
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10/02/07, 11:10 PM
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Honestly, people are simply too far removed from their own food chain. The general public does not understand the difference between raising livestock in a humane manor and a relationship with pets.
Another farm family we know does tours....mostly school or youth groups. They make butter. A common question from the children is ..."but is it real butter? like in the store?"
Or try this one (another true story) .... friends raise an extensive garden, chickens and eggs. Their adult daughter lives in another state and remarried away from home. The new son-in-law couldn't eat the eggs for breakfast when they visited and he found out the eggs were "home grown" and not bought from a store!!!
WHAT??? But sadly, that's the reality of how people are growing up nowadays.
Walt Disney animal animations...PETA...ASPCA....whomever... these entities simply do this generation (or the human race) no good when it comes to reality and food mindset.
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What should I put on my app as a profession....
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10/03/07, 03:07 AM
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Bull fighter.
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10/03/07, 01:15 PM
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