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Old 09/27/07, 05:40 PM
 
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Can you have to much land, Yes. I grew up on 1700 acers and my father ran horses and Black Angus. That was good when he had all the kids at home. My husband and I have 5 acers and it is all we can take care of. We have ducks, chickens, Black Angus, Dogs and cats. Hoping t get a goat or two. But if I had 100 acers or more, I don't think I could take care of it, without paid help. And then I couldn't afford the equipment that is needed to keep up the large farm, just to hay off my 5 acers, is about $50,000 in equipment. Now is it cost effecive to run a large farm? Then being Timber, you get to cut it, and reap the profit, but it will be another 50 or more years to harvest again. A friend down the road, 3 years ago harvested his timberland, Now his house has been on the market for 2 years.
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Old 09/27/07, 06:31 PM
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No!!!

As I probably made clear in the title no there is not a thing as to much land to own. Now the question is how economically is it going to produce for you?
I would love to own several hundred acres in the state of PA because I can get a great tax reduction here if it is used for agriculture purposes.
I can think of a lot of great ways to use the land.
My biggest dream is to own enough acreage to preserve both animal and plant heritage species and still be able to have fun. Even maybe have a learning center on the property for heritage farming.
Now if it were mountainous terrain i still could use it and not have a problem with it. now this is with all rights still attached.
But this is all a big dream I'm now looking for a place with a few acres 10 or 20 to start with.
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Old 09/27/07, 07:40 PM
 
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I own a significant amount of land that I diligently attempt to manage to the best use and my ability. I am proud to state that I did not inherit the land nor the funds to buy it. The bulk of the acreage is growing trees and I plan on having a sustainable harvest each year for my support. Additionally, I am in the feeder calf production where I maintain the herd by rotation grazing. I am very conscientious about not abusing the land. The most abuse the property gets is from trespassers. It may be hard to realize but the general population here in the USA could really give a crap about how the land is preserved. I have people cutting trees, carelessly starting fires, throwing out 100s of used tires, creating ruts that cause erosion, dumping dead animals and trash, etc. I cut expensive equipment tires on bottles that are haphazardly thrown out. Game is killed out of season or at night without regard to season. Being a land owner of large acreage may not be all that it is made out to be. Currently the area I live in remains in a severe drought and trees are dying and cattle are stressed. Feed for the winter is nonexistent. Property taxes will be due soon and they are significant and due without regard as to whether the year will turn a profit. I am not complaining, I am just stating that with the ownership there comes a lot of responsibility both morally and financially plus a level of commitment. Vacations and days off are a minimum. Owning large acreage can be a 24/7 sacrifice at times but generates a tremendous joy that offsets the negatives. I hope everyone enjoys a breath of fresh air from the trees I manage.
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Old 09/27/07, 08:33 PM
 
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If you can get 640 acres and you are quiverfully minded (10 kids per couple, all survive) as are all your offspring (and they all want to build on the homeplace), how long until each child has only 1000 suare feet?

Just over 5 generations (could be less than a century), better get all you can.

Of course, the quiverfull do not think there are 5 more generations left to come and they are doing all they can to ensure that 5 more generations of people will not appear..
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Old 09/27/07, 10:08 PM
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I want a 6,400 acre parsley farm. Should be real easy to manage.
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Old 10/07/07, 11:10 PM
 
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If you can afford the taxes.
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Old 10/07/07, 11:59 PM
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wow, and here we are just hoping to get a place on 2.5 acres , I'd love to have about 50 acres, thats plenty for me. Enough to have a small homestead, some wooded area for riding trails (dirtbike/atv) and a decent sized pond. beyond that I think it would be too much to really manage then you have to deal with trespassers, people sneaking in to hunt or kids looking for a place to hide and party, forest fires, insurance liabilities etc..

I dont think it's greedy to own alot of land per se, I think it's gready to own alot of land, break that land down into 1/4 acre lots and throw dozens of cookie cutter mcmansions on it. thats greed.

I'm not even opposed to developers coming in and breaking the land down into 5-10- 20 acre lots for homes with equestrian/agricultural use. but there are just too many subdivisions already and we dont need anymore of em

One of the best land uses I've seen around me is White Oak Plantation. 7,400 acres in northeast florida. http://www.whiteoakplantation.net/
"a sanctuary for numerous species of endangered wildlife and a centre for the arts. Originally a private estate owned by Howard Gilman - whose grandfather, Isaac Gilman, was to the US paper industry what the Rockefellers were to oil and Andrew Carnegie to steel - the plantation has now become a refuge for endangered species, and other more exotic species in need of care. With the guidance of conservationist John Lukas, White Oak has become perhaps the most exclusive conservation facility in the world, home to more than three dozen species of endangered and threatened animals, mostly from sub-Saharan Africa, kept in a secluded 600-acre section at the heart of the estate.
The centre's success can be measured by its remarkable record for producing young among rare species, some of which have been brought here after strenuous efforts to promote their breeding elsewhere have failed. Over the years, in addition to a regular stream of business clients, Howard Gilman invited many dancers and performing artists to spend time on the estate. In 1991, he built a spectacular glass-and-pine studio at White Oak for Mikhail Baryshnikov, to whom he became a close friend and protector after the dancer defected to the USA.
Other high profile guests to White Oak have included Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. When Isabella Rossellini first visited the plantation she was astounded: "White Oak was like a Garden of Eden, a sort of Utopia." And there is an element of unspoilt paradise about this 7,500-acre former rice plantation, straddling St Mary's River. this is a place to savour an environment that isn't about the instant gratification of the human race at the expense of other species. As far as Howard Gilman was concerned, White Oak was 'a place of peaceful yet productive contemplation' for people and activities he cared about."

The only reason I know this place even exists is because Mr Gillman was a frequent flyer on the airline I work for. He was a very generous man and often invited employees to the plantation to stay the weekend and just relax. They used to host our xmas parties every year and man did they take good care of us. The place is amazing!

White Oak has been really good to us, I got to play golf on the private $150,000 a membership course, all equipment, carts, free drinks ..no charge and theres was nobody else on the course, good thing because i cant play golf. The foundation also own a house in Saint marys, georgia where they have a nice big I'll say 75' or so fishing yacht, I got to go out on 2 trips with them, had a blast, free food and drinks and when we got back they cleaned, wrapped and packaged our catch for us.

then theres the Veterinary School and zoo on the property. Gillman was a collector of rare things, including animals. I havent been up there in a few years. Mr Gillman passed away and now it's owned by the Gillman foundation, the golf course was sold off to private members and I'm not sure about the rest I'm just happy I got to experience the place before things changed
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