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Old 07/17/07, 09:51 AM
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Old 07/17/07, 12:26 PM
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The woman I work with lost 8 full-grown hogs last spring to what DNR called "something big". They weren't eaten, but very slashed up. Of course, there are no big cats in IL.

This spring, she saw one running across a pasture on her way to work. Her neighbors have seen it, too. They've also seen one similar that is black.

Recently a black panther that was owned by a small time circus or whatever escaped just over the IN state line. They still haven't caught it.

Who knows how many people in this country have privately owned such wild animals, legally or illegally, and "lost" them? Think about how fast feral house cats can breed. Just my .02.
A mountain lion/cougar was hit on the road near the MS River - west side of state, middle-to midsouthern part of IL. We're also told told no rattlers here, MAYBE near the bluffs in the NW corner but this is BS. Reliable sources have viewed them in my area. Big cats, like coyote, are very adept at blending into the surroundings. Coyotes live in Chicago proper as well as NYC. Why would 'experts' think the cats can't do the same?
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some interesting points
in the exotic pet trade leopards (especially black) & cougars (smaller south american type) are the most common big cats traded legally & illegally. so logically they would be the most common escapees & releases.
jaguars are extremely rare in the pet trade because they are just as difficult as tigers & lions. and the last recorded native one killed in the SE USA was before the revolution. also they don't, to my knowledge, drag kills into trees.
melanistic cougars tend to be a dark chocolate brown not black. cougars do not drag kills into trees they scrape leaf litter over it. leopards (including black ones) do drag kills into trees.
i vote escaped/released black leopards for the panther stories.
also it is not impossible a couple of DARs released black panthers to establish a huntable population (most common origin for new wild hog population now).
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There was a wild jaguar bayed up a few years ago in West Texas, I believe, with hound dogs. There was a photo taken then the hunter had the difficult task of trying to get the dogs to quit baying the jaguar because he didn't want to get fined for hunting so he took a pic or two for proof then rounded up his dogs and skedaddled. I believe there was a photo in the Texas Wildlife & Parks in regards to that jaguar. Really impressive animal and yes, they still have them in Mexico.
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Old 07/18/07, 09:52 AM
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there is both cougar and bobcats here in southern iowa. I am hoping that the local farmers will get together and exterminate them all. as far as i am concerned the DNR has no jurisdiction on privet lands. they think they do ,but this makes no sence to me
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Old 07/18/07, 10:09 AM
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Well, I live just across the Cannon county line not too far from short mountain, and I leave early in the morning for work. I actually saw a small black panther down by a branch of the barren fork river near my house. There is no way a house cat was that large (100lbs ~) or had a tail long enough that he/she could drag it on the ground. Only saw it once (about 1 yr ago), but that was enough.
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Thank you Reptyle, for the video. That makes TWO videos I have seen from North Alabama, now. But oh no, there are no cougars or panthers in the state. Right.
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there was some GOOD pics in full cry a guy in AZ got when his cat hounds bayed up a jag, but i wouldn't really consider that or TX the SE.
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Old 07/20/07, 06:03 PM
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We have them in Smith Co. There has been one sited here in our back holler area...

GoatsRUs...my dh has seen a black panther after dark crossing the road just up a ways from the house. I wonder how far they range?

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