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Old 06/10/07, 05:49 PM
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Rocky, was it a black bear or a grizzly? They have both in the Rockies.
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Old 06/10/07, 05:51 PM
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I would rather have a encounter with a black bear than a grizzly any darn day! They are still dangerous but FAR less so than a grizzly. This I have read in books, seen on Nature shows and read on the internet by the ranger themselves. Here is a link from a person who has studied them:


http://www.bear.org/Black/Articles/W..._Wildlife.html At this site also read "How Dangerous are Black Bears"


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Most injuries from black bear attacks are minor and result from a bear attempting to get at people's food. If the bear's behavior indicates that it is after your food and you're physically attacked, separate yourself from the food and slowly back away.

Here is the site http://www.nps.gov/archive/grsm/ppht...lights383.html

If I were you I would call your local wildlife office especially since you will be away for the day. If they cannot come today I would scare the heck out of it if it returned.
Hey thanks for all the fear and grossness Bumpus. Do you have articles that support your claims? Were they really black bears? Were the fed by humans? Starving rogues? Injured bears? You live leave out all this information and just try to instill fear and disgust?
CAnfossi call them asap and be prepared this evening. Good Luck
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Old 06/10/07, 05:53 PM
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Rocky, was it a black bear or a grizzly? They have both in the Rockies.

It was a Black.

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Old 06/10/07, 05:57 PM
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I had another fried have a Grizzly get after him it was a very old Sow.

Oh Black Bears like Dogs,one member of this Forum had to have her Dog sewed back up after a Bear got it.

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Old 06/10/07, 06:03 PM
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Yeah, I've heard that black bears enjoy eating poodles. Bite-size bear bait; eat them up YUM!
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Old 06/10/07, 06:24 PM
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Y'all are making me grateful to be alive. A few years ago I almost tripped on a sleeping black bear at Yellowstone (had he not sat up I would have fallen right over him). Luckily, the bear was sleepy and confused so hubby and I were able to s-l-o-w-l-y back away to safety.

I did get a GREAT photo of the bear as I was escaping and it hangs in our den now.
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Old 06/10/07, 07:45 PM
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I live in Black Bear and Grizzly country and in our experience the blacks are more of a nuisance than the grizzlies.
Since we got our Great Pyrenees we've only had a problem with one big Black who stuck his head in the barn and scared my 29 year old gelding into jumping over his stall wall. The Pyrs were on a jaunt across the river at the time (around noon). Not much around here tends to want to mess with two 150 pound Great Pyrenees, even the cougars.
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Old 06/10/07, 08:04 PM
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Hey thanks for all the fear and grossness Bumpus. Do you have articles that support your claims? Were they really black bears? Were the fed by humans? Starving rogues? Injured bears? You live leave out all this information and just try to instill fear and disgust?
They were not green bears.

Field and Stream and local news papers.

Oh by the way I don't really care if you personaly believe me or not, and you can believe what ever you want to.

Also the info I give is for everyone not just you ! ! !

Some people learn and some don't.

Another thing I do not lie either I don't have to, and The lord says not to. Lying is sin ! ! !

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It's best to treat all bears with respect and one of the things that few people consider when they deal with them is that some have been relocated which means they have been a problem and they do become oversocialized. I would certainly be quite careful in bear country but I grew up in hunting camps and had we were raised to understand that not too many animals play by the book.

If you have little enough experience with bears, it's likely best not to try and gain first hand training.
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Bear

There is an old joke:
How do you tell a grizzly bear from a black bear?

when you see the bear and you climb a tree the black bear will climb up and eat you.

The grizzley bear will push over the tree and eat you.


In other words....a pitchfork isnt going to do it. You need to consider major weapons.
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Old 06/10/07, 08:21 PM
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I worked ten years in Alaska, working with grizzlies and blackies in Denali. I'd much prefer to meet a grizzer than a blackie. A grizzer wants to kill you to alleviate a threat... play dead, the threat is gone, and so is the bear.... MOST of the time. A blackie wants to kill you to eat you.

So you never play dead with a black bear, but fight like your life depends on it... cause it does.

I would love to have a pet bear!!!

As far as your black bear problem. Eliminate the food source if any, all odors, leave the lights on...If the bear shows back up have a loud stereo handy... pots and pans banging... secure your home, as if a mad zombie wanted to get in your house... and, if necessary, shoot the bear just like you'd shoot a zombie... in the head if possible, if not, in the chest. Hopefully it's cool enough to cool the carcass down, after you've harvested it.
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bears once they lose there fear of man are best dispatched. military made that mistake some years ago at an army base i grew up on, they moved all the bears outa camp to a local protected forest. three of my buds went fishing and came across a hungry nonfearful bear the search party that found them (and the bear) have nightmares still (bear was dispatched, perfectly healthy from autopsy) not something to mess around with, not sure where you are in east ont. but most of the mnr staff are very helpful. have seen a rapid increase of bear sightings in our area.
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In Alaska you don't go anywhere without your gun. If its not the bears out to eat you, its the moose.
When did moose start eating people?
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Old 06/10/07, 09:23 PM
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I don't have any first hand experience with bears, but I would say that any wild animal that is or has tried breaking into a house has already forgotton the "avoids people" part of the book don't ya think? I would assume he forgot the "only attacks to defend himself" part too.
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First of all, if you get a gun you had better know how to use it. A wounded bear is a very angry bear. Are you having a dry year where the normal wild sources of food for bears is scarce? A dog may make you feel better but that is not going to stop a bear that means business. I would suggest you get a hold of the department of natural resources in your area or fish and game and have them come out and set a live trap. Bears noses rival dogs in the sense of smell. IF you have anything like dog food and even interesting garbage outside -that will attract them. I had a neighbor who stored the bags of dog food out in his milk house. The bear made it's way through a solid wooden door to get at the dog food. The best thing would be if it could be live trapped and moved out of the area.
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Old 06/10/07, 09:28 PM
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This guy was looking for quick answers and instead got rhetorical poetry.
Find a different place to stay until you get a twelve gauge shotgun, and get ahold of the authorities to deal with this bear. Keep your dog close.
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Old 06/10/07, 09:39 PM
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Shoot it and bury it. Don't tell the MNR, they just make things worse. They're the reason for the problem in the first place. They've tracked relocated bears in Ontario, they average 30 km per day as the crow flies heading back to where they were trapped in the first place. A lot of the increase in bear sightings in Eastern and Central Ontario is from nuisance bears trapped in the north and brought south causing trouble on their way back north. Thank the treehuggers for ending the spring bear hunt too.

Electric fence will help in some instances. The beekeeper on our place uses 5 strands every 10" or so from the ground and it usually keeps them out, unfortunately when it doesn't keep them out, it usually keeps them in once they're in so he carries a rifle in his truck for when he runs into a bear trapped in a yard.
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Old 06/10/07, 09:43 PM
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I'll chime in with my opinion since everyone else is. I would definitely get
a gun, shotgun preferably, and shoot off a couple of shots to scare him
if he comes back. If he comes back again after that then you may need
to just shoot him. To shoot him on the first foray into your domocile is
just chickens***
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And yes, I too have been camping in bear country many times, and had
a curious Grizzly run off at a quick pace when we wakened early one
morning in Alaska and scared the bejuzuz out of him by making noise. Most
folks get hysterical about bears.
Anyone near North Minnesota, I highly recommend a trip to see the Vince
Schute(?) Bear Preserve north of Virginia. Awesome experience!
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You need a firearm, and you need to be able to use it in a hurry.

That's one fearless bear, and you are in danger. I am all for letting apex preators live their lives, but not at the expense of me and mine.

He needs to die, and quickly... even if he doesn't return to your place, contact fish and game and tell them; he's a problem bear and needs to be killed before a human is.
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Old 06/10/07, 09:50 PM
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"A lot of the increase in bear sightings in Eastern and Central Ontario is from nuisance bears trapped in the north and brought south causing trouble on their way back north."

And I'm sure a lot of is it from increased numbers of humans moving into
their neighborhoods...but I'm sure your right as well. I remember camping
in Alberta and hearing Park Rangers commenting on one particular bear
that returned after being flown out 600 miles! Amazing animals.
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