Made in the U.S.A. jeans at Wal-Mart!!!!
 

You may or may not have seen these blue jeans at Wally World:
Faded Glory brand blue jeans Made in the U.S.A., $9.72!!! :hobbyhors
They aren't just dark blue cardboard stiff jeans either. They have different colors (dark blues, "stone washed"), have "Levi-Strauss" type of construction with the riveted corners, and are made of a decent weight denim!!! :1pig:

I like to buy products that are made in the U.S.A. whenever possible, then Japan, Germany, etc., and as a last resort China, Taiwan. It has some to do with my concern over manufacturing jobs being lost to underpaid workers, and especially the whole quality issue most of the time (I say most of the time b/c some of things from China are actually improving in quality).

Anyway, ever since good old Levi's started to make their jeans in Mexico and the like, and Carhartt can be a bit pricey (and some of their material is made in Mexico) I thought it was awesome that a company is making inexpensive, quality jeans in the good old U.S.A. :dance:

I also forgot to add that I have actually owned and worn several pairs of these jeans for several years now and they hold up quite nicely. In fact, I'm wearing a pair of them as I type! :baby04:

you wont get any good replies from the people here they are all ant-walmart. I like shopping there it doesnt smel like old people like the kmart next door

I happen to like walmart (am I allowed to say that?) I can get most of my shopping done at one store instead of the mall or driving around town, the fact that I can get USA made jeans just makes it better.

kmac

Hmm, I dont know about people here not liking Walmart, but I do some shopping at the one in town because I can afford their prices and they offer some stuff I cant find anywhere else unless I drive about 40 minutes down the freeway into another town. Its a nice big store and althought I dont know when it opened (it was here before we moved out here), its very clean.
I will take a look at the jeans you mentioned. I do get tired of seeing Made In China, etc, and admit, Walmart is full of that stuff, as are so many stores now days. If I can afford it, I prefer to buy Made in the USA.
We have a Kmart in town too, but it is really awful here. I always wonder how in the world they stay open (at least the one we have out here).

I've bought FG jeans many times and they actually hold up better than my Levis. I hate WM simply because I hate a store with 32 checkout lanes that only keeps like 5 open during the busiest times of the week. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

2 items:
time to find, 3 minutes
time to walk to register, 2 minutes
time to wait to check out, 30 minutes
time to check out once at the register, 1 minute
YUCK!

Brandon

Is Walmart good for America?

How much money is enough? Why is it necessary to take over every conceivable market on planet Earth?

We shop Wal-Mart because they came into our lil town with a Super-Center, put in the highest quality of everything, chopped prices, drove all the other businesses out of town (including 3 major food store chains), then dropped their quality once they became the monopoly. We shop there now because it's the only game in town. We strive to buy items from local retailers as much as we can, but the allure of "I'm here now, so let's buy everything" is very strong. That is also why Wal-Mart frequently is not the best deal on many items, once it grabs a small town by the throat.

I can't say I am anti-Wal-Mart, that is just how capitalism works. But I can say that profits that used to stay in town and circulate 5 times before leaving now travel straight to Bentonville -- all in exchange for a dribble of low-paying jobs.

Before the Supercenter, we had an old-style Wal-Mart -- and a vibrant downtown. Now downtown is all antique stores, dependent on the whims of folks from out of town stopping by. That's a much more tenuous existence.

As far as jeans, I have tried all the brands within price reason, and I like Wrangler Rugged Wear best. $25 a pair, and they last for years of hard farm work. I have some pairs going on their 5th year of abuse.

made iin USA...hmmm

did you by chance see the 20/20 special where the clothing is completed up to say just the zipper and then a company here puts said zipper in and the company then has the right to label it made in the USA.

Also if the fabric if of american manufacture but the pants themselves are made overseas...well made in america lmbo

You know..just like ford chevy etc all are "made in america" but yet a popular car magazine disassembled three trucks and found the ford chevy and dodge trucks were made up of 79 percent foreign parts

I've got some Faded Glory jeans...

I certainly didn't know any of them were made in the USA. And at 9.72, it's hard to imagine Americans making them. (Unless they're on sale!)

Let them hate Walmart all they want. I like saving money.

Ruth

of course it says they are made in America not made by Americans :)

A little light reading for you on Faded Glory Jeans. Maybe the label is made in USA, but the jeans are....................................

"Fishman told the tale of a woman in Bangladesh who worked 10-12 hours a day in a factory that makes Faded Glory jeans for Wal-Mart. Her job requires her to sew 120 back pockets on jeans per hour. When she falls short, Fishman says the woman has been subjected to beatings from her bosses, administered with the very apparel that she works long hours to create for a salary that doesn't provide enough for her to buy a toothbrush for herself. "

More of the Wal-Mart Effect...............
http://www.collegenews.org/x5569.xml



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Faded Glory??
 

I've been buying & wearing Faded Glory jeans for years.
They wear well. They are cheap.
I spend my money where I want to.
End of Story.
If it bothers you.............
Spend your money where you want to.
No problem.
We all have choices, hunnh.

That's right, we all have choices. I choose not to support the owners of factories run by child labor or slave labor.

Besides, I have yet to see any jean that can hold up to the abuse I dish out as well as my Carhartts do.

Yeah, capitalism is an evil thing, isn't it?

Ruth

Probably like everything else, capitalism has to be balanced with other considerations. Left to its own end, capitalism can create some very bad results. For example, in the 1930's the US had virutally no ship building capabilities. Other countries were more efficient (or at least cheaper) at building ships, and a once thriving business in this country was almost totally gone. FDR pushed through "The Maritime Act", which was a law that basically said (well if laws could speak): Get your best price for a particular ship on the open market, but then have it built by a US builder. The difference would be reimbursed to the buyer. This put people back to work building ships, caused a large amount of construction of new ship yards (which put people back to work), but more importantly, it made it possible for the US to do a rapid build up of it's naval fleet later in the decade. Without the ships those yards built, there is no way we could have won WWII. Japan would have dominated the Pacific, and we could have never supplied our troop/fighting needs in Europe.

While I believe capitalism is generally the best model, it's not perfect. It's also not democracy, although many people confuse it for that. It's an economic model.

I'm so with you on that! K-Mart always looks deserted and their prices are higher here. Doesn't smell like old people, though.

I think slave labor and child labor are evil practices.

I also think that if there were a worldwide minimum wage, it'd put Walmart out of business.

And I don't believe for a minute that those jeans were made entirely or even mostly in the U.S. by Americans. Think about it: even with a very well run factory with workers getting minimum wage, would it be possible to produce, start to finish, a pair of jeans in under two hours, and turn a profit?

Someone out east wanna call them tomorrow morning and ask them where, specifically, their factories are located, what portions of the manufacture are in those locations, and where they source their denim fabric?

here's the contact information:

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/prod...7677-page.html

Again, just more mere observations on our local Supercenter. I find it interesting that, now that they have the self-checkout lanes, they have winnowed down the number of lanes offering service so far that often, if I want to get out of there fairly promptly, I am forced to self-checkout to do so. Saves WM money.

Just a few days after the self-serve lanes appeared, they went to the bag carousels in the serviced lanes at the local store, so now I have to put my own stuff into my own cart, and if I miss any, well too bad. Doing that, a checkout person told me, allowed WM to hike the average number of transactions per hour required of checkout people. Oh yeah, they collect that data as a kind of survival of the fittest.

And they won't take my check anymore. They just scan it for the account info, then hand it back to me.

One day I was in there and it seemed too cool. I asked why the manager had the temp down so low, and was informed that the temps of all WM stores are centrally controlled in Bentonville, and they can't change it if they wanted to.

It's a stranger and stranger place, over time, and I doubt if Sam Walton (whose bio I read) would recognize it. Even the "greeters" are surly these days. I would be too, I reckon, if I was 79 years old and having to stand up all day at the doorway cuz I need the money for my medications.

All that adds up to a $9 pair of jeans, I reckon. I was trying to search, because there are places like the Mariana Islands (Google 'em) where cheap labor assembled products and clothing that then is legally tagged MADE IN THE USA and sent here. Maybe that's the Faded Glory jeans manufacturing site, I dunno.

Anyway, it is a real treat to patronize a locally owned supermarket every now and then, have my groceries bagged for me in my choice of plastic or paper and have them wheeled out to the lot and put in my car -- no tip required or wanted. Can't get it all there...hey, it's not Wal-Mart...but it is a treat to be treated like a real, wanted customer again.

"Made in American by Americans." Yeah, I remember when Sam's Choice products line got started, and WM had these big signs all over about Made in America. Fact was -- and is -- the Sam's Choice stuff was largely snack foods and soft drinks, the kind of house brand stuff that grocery stores have been selling for years, just labeled Sam's Choice. Sure, all that was made in America by Americans. But the hard merchandise lines were largely imported. Still, adding those products allowed WM to say a big portion of its overall item count was American made.

Like I say, I'm not for it or against it, just watching closely.

alot or companies are controlling stuff like thermostats etc from a home office.

I know that the company I currently work for does it. Problem is their climate and ours isnt the same. Im down here in the hot south with high humidity and they are up north where its much cooler and lil humidity. Our ac will not come on til around 10 am no matter them temp and by then even the customers are asking why its so hot in the store. It also shuts off about 6 even if the temp outside is over 90 even though we are open til 10 and stuck there til about 11 closing down the store etc.

Our lights come on and off from up there too.

If I had money, I'd shop elsewhere - but I have to consider my finances first. And, for my family to get the most for their $, I have to go to Wal-Mart for many things.

And provide health insurance....one of the main reasons why our products made in the USA cannot compete on the global market. :(

Made in the USA!!!

by illegal alien Mexicans

You do have a point there also.

Wal Mart may be cheaper at the check out - but not in the long run. If you have to continue to replace the item, you will pay more than you would if you had bought quality.

Now it may be hard to find quality at any price. When Wal Mart began threatening companies to either go overseas to get a better price or they would buy from foreign factories, most companies went overseas and many things are just shoddy merchandise - even medium price department stores, even some of the better department stores.

But Wal Mart is the chief architec for the moving offshore of our garment factories, textiles, shoes, household items, law equipment, etc. That's just the fact.

When Mom and Pop went out of business, they probably took lower paying jobs or quit. This means less taxes, less charitable giving, less community involvement, etc. It also could mean they are on various government programs now, maybe unemployment for some time. So when you think what you pay for an item at the checkout is the price of that item - think again.

Right now, things may not have increased all that much, it is a creeping thing and this country is paying out all those benefits on borrowed money. It will catch up to us some day.

But right now things are increasing more than we realize. The registration for our little car was $10 more this year than last - and it was $10 more than the year before.

Here in the South, most Wal Mart stores I go into are hot and the air is not fresh.

Most of us have to buy at Wal Mart and the lure of buying it all at one time is certainly there - so I don't fault anyone who does. It's just to pretend it's a good thing and that one is saving money kinda bothers me.

And Wal Mart is not pure capitalism - unless you consider freebies by local governments, etc. to be pure capitalism. Free utilities, tax abatements, etc. etc.

I requested the wife to stop by and check the made in USA faded glory jeans. She just called and stated that WalMart did in fact have the faded glory jeans but they were made in Pakistan. What part of the USA is Pakistan located? I know where Usa Is located. It is a town in Japan established in order to be able to label products Made in Usa.

Of course they would turn a profit. They would just be turning a little bit less profit than they are now. All it means is the execs would have to be satisfied with one less private jet.

It has never been about an inability to make money. It's always been about, and always will be about, the people at the top of the company making as much money for themselves as possible. When multi-millionaires (in the case of Walmart - billionaires) say they can't afford to raise wages, what they're really saying is "I'm a greedy S.O.B. and I don't want to make a little less in order to give someone else a decent standard of living."

Ok here is the scoop on made in America.I knew my DW had dealings with this before.So I asked here.

She said the material is made in America so they can label it as such :shrug: I don't know if that is the case here but it was with Lee's they were made in Mexico.

big rockpile

Made in America, or made in the USA?

Sorry I had to ask her.She said U.S.A.

big rockpile

Walmart is just an evil company. Those that say they have to shop there due to there finances alwasy fail to acknowledge the socail cost of shopping there. The more one shop there the lower the prices have to remain which means more and more jobs are lost in america and outsourced to another country.

What about the cost of the tax payer, you and me, that have our taxes raised to offer more and more welfare programs to those that are not making it. You know why they aren't making it??? It's because you the shopper keeps voting with your pocket book to send jobs overseas, to decrease quaility.

Walmart has a long history of cutting costs, finding a cheaper supplier, paying their employees less and less and keeping employees on part time hours so they can not qualitfy for full time benefits. Then there are people that do have benefits available but they get paid such a low wage that they can not afford the premiums, so they and there children go on medicare.

It's a repeating cycle, it's a no win situation. America is failing it's own citizens and Walmart is leading the parade.

So think about the low cost of thoe jeans next time you shop at Walmart and ask yourself if the price of this low cost is really worth it after all.

I have been arguing this point about American manufacturing for years.

Everyone deserves a quality product for good value, but what is the REAL cost of the product in the long run?

We had an auto parts manufacturer in our town that employed 800-1000 people. Wages started at 9.00 and went up to 17.00/hour depending on skill and senority. No one getting rich, but making a decent wage, but had good insurance, vacations, training, etc.

Arvin gave generously to the community. $1000 to teacher of the year, paid for a large portion of our community center, and gave to nearly all the charitable organizations in town. They were huge supporters of the United Way. Most of their giving was given quietly, and most folks had no idea.

Arvin also made a point of supporting small businesses whenever possible, including mine.

Then, two years ago, the car market softened because of "demand for imports". Arvin closed the Franklin plant, and it has been a shock to the community.

For example, my neighbor worked at Arvin and made about $15/hour as a set up man. He was unable to find a decent job for over a year. Now he makes $9/hour in another factory. All 4 of his kids are on Medicaid, free school lunch & breakfast, free school books, heat assistance, and whatever other program they can qualify for.

Our community has suffered from the economic loss of Arvin, both in spending and its giving. It was a huge blow to my business, and I can name many, many others impacted as well. A tiny grocery closed, about 7 employees, a machine shop closed with 4 employees, etc.

House prices have plummeted, and property taxes are a huge issue now. The city no longer has the huge influx of tax revenue it recieved from Arvin.

Now I ask, what is the real cost of the Hyundia that someone bought?

Clove

I intended to say, would it be possible for them to produce the jeans with Americans working minimum wage jobs and still sell them for less than $10 and turn a profit? I don't see how, with the spinning of the cotton into thread, dying the thread, weaving it into cloth, cutting the pieces out, sewing the pieces togetherm, and adding all the embroidery, snaps, rivets, etc, plus the transportation and overhead costs.

made in the USA but what poor exploited 3rd word nation grew the cotton for them?

I wonder, if the materials used are of US origin?

"made" is meant to mean "assembled" usually.

I just bought 2 pairs of Faded Glory and they both say: Made in Indonesia.

Another old pair also says Indonesia.

I know myDW worked at KEY's there was a company starting in Mexico.KEY's brings in couple pairs of Bibs that the other company was putting out and asked how they could compete?

Like my DW told them if they wanted very poor quality it could be done,but she personaly wouldn't buy them.

I know when I was working in the industry we made $80 dress slacks.Most people just couldn't afford them.This was18 years ago.

big rockpile

Jim S. you aren't by chance in the Clinton area are you?
MB

Made in the USA does not necessarily mean the 50 states. It can also mean a US territory such as American Samoa, Mariana Islands, etc. They are technically part of the US and the citizens are US citizens. But most do not have to follow minimum wage laws, so sweatshops are abundant.