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Tango 05/16/07 04:23 PM

Religion and Homesteading
 
I'm wondering how many of us are out in the woods or down a country lane out of religious conviction? While it wasn't central to my sojourn to the woods, it seems to be a focus now. In many ways simplicity allows for more meditative/contemplative states. You don't need to mention your religion, was just wondering if others felt more religious ( or we can call it "spiritual") after they started homesteading and/ or if it was part of the original plan, to dedicate more time to religious matters?

RockyGlen 05/16/07 04:26 PM

part of our plan - we wanted a more simple life that would allow our focus to be on things other than possessions and busyness.

peter nap 05/16/07 04:52 PM

Tango, I can't wait to hear some of the replay's. It's also a loaded question. I was born in the mountains of Va. but raised in the foothills. Where I was raised, was also Mennonite country. I can remember seeing a hundred buggies every Sunday, going or coming from Church. They were and are, wonderful people who live their religion.

I was a Methodist and when I married joined the Episcopal church. I freely admit that I do not attend church often. I hate the politics in the Churches these days. To the utter amazement of most people I know, I am also deeply Religious. (I'm also colorful).

When asked once why I was in favor of allowing hunting on Sunday, My reply was that I feel closer to God in the woods and fields than anywhere else. After all, he made them. The low bidder built my church.

Sooooo...the answer is that it is a big part of my return to the more remote country. It is not the overwhelming point but is an important one. Others include quality of life, a true dislike of city (Suburban) people and a pure hatred of Government breathing down my neck.

Forerunner 05/16/07 04:57 PM

Ditto to the above.

As for politics in today's "churches", perhaps this will shed some light on the subject....

http://presys.com/~ekklesia/bvb.htm

madness 05/16/07 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by peter nap
The low bidder built my church.

:rotfl:



I did not choose my path for any spiritual reasons but I find the time to sit and think and enjoy life has greatly improved my health in the realms of mind, body and spirit.

RoseGarden 05/16/07 05:08 PM

To answer the original question, my answer is yes.

Meg Z 05/16/07 07:01 PM

No religious reasons for me, before or now.

I grew up on a homestead, so for me, this was how to get back to the peacefulness I knew then. This is just the way life is supposed to be.
Meg

GrannyCarol 05/16/07 07:11 PM

I do not now have a "homestead", but my interest in and desire for such a thing definitely has roots in my faith.

Old Vet 05/16/07 08:57 PM

Homesteading or farming is hard to do without a belief in God. Who would plaint seed and count on what will come from it?

jessepona 05/16/07 08:57 PM

I've always loved the idea of simple living, I suppose this is also a refleciton of my spirituality. Umm so yes to the original question. The sound of country rain distracted me for a bit there :D

Farmerwilly2 05/16/07 09:12 PM

Church had nothing to do with it for me, it was the stories I grew up hearing about the struggles my folks went through during the depression and war. Since I was a kid I wanted more control over my life, I look for that in our place. Church on Sunday with the smell of incense or candles just dovetails real well the smell of lichens, moss and leaf mould in the woods. I find both real peaceful. Our plans include a stone chapel on the place, someplace quiet to pray with a fenced yard for our ashes when the time comes.

country_wife 05/16/07 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Vet
Homesteading or farming is hard to do without a belief in God. Who would plaint seed and count on what will come from it?

It may be hard for some, but not for us. We are entirely without religion. Atheists, in fact.

That doesn't mean we can't enjoy the beauty of nature and the peaceful countryside. :baby04:

Tango 05/17/07 05:50 AM

Does a person good to read the replies :) I realized the question may be loaded when asking but thought it worthwhile to ask anyway. We have many religions on these boards and also some non-religious folk. The lines blur between some religions and some spiritual inclinations. What some may consider a nice moment might be a positively religious revelation to another- same location, same time, very different mental process. I've studied a few religions in my day: raised Catholic and embraced Catholicism as a young adult, formerly studied Wicca, was solitary for close to ten years, formerly studied Mahayana Buddhism and am now a Theravadan Buddhist and feel like a lot of questions finally have answers. Living in the woods, off grid has freed up a lot of time. The other day I found a gorgeous spot on the creek to meditate. Nothing else was more importatnt at that particular moment.

Seeria 05/17/07 07:07 AM

We're going the homestead route partly due to spirituality (Buddhism). Other part... for independence.

Sherri C 05/17/07 07:45 AM

I felt it would be hypocritical to practice what is commonly referred to as an "earth-based religion" without having some earth under my fingernails. Also, industry and self-reliance are considered noble virtues in my religion and homesteading seemed the best way to obtain these goals.

Terri 05/17/07 08:50 AM

When I was a child in California, I went into the Redwood forests where the lowest branch was 100' up and went WHOA! It felt just like a cathedral!!!!

Am I more religious in a rural area? No, the twig was already bent before I ever came out here. It is just easier for me to talk to God when the pedestrian next to me is not crossing in front of me!

Do I spend more time now talking with God?

Yes, but only because it is easier!

EDDIE BUCK 05/17/07 10:04 AM

To me, the farther away from mankind and the distractions caused by such, causes me to atleast feel closer to the Creator. The earth beneath, the trees and wildlife around, and look up and see the blue sky,{without a plane or tracks} all created by him. For this short time with out distraction, its just me and God. I cherish those times. :)

kitaye 05/17/07 11:05 AM

Even though I haven't moved completely out of the rat race yet I find my spirituality to be stronger now than it ever has been. I suspect when we finally do get the homestead of our dreams that it will become stronger still.

Jim S. 05/17/07 11:08 AM

The natural world is my religion and the outdoors is my church, so I never have to go to church, I just have to step outside. At one point in my life, I had much more leisure to be contemplative than at present. I miss that, and I hope to regain it again in a couple years, when we are free and clear again on our place after an expansion of acreage, and I can afford to loosen my ties to the artificial construct of the busyness world.

The beauty of a farmer's timepiece is that it has only four measures: spring, summer, fall and winter. The farther from the farm one travels, the more divided up time gets, into months, weeks, days, hours, and now in the digital age, even minutes and seconds. So in traveling farther and farther from the natural world, time goes from 4 seasons in a year to 31,556,926 seconds a year.

And we wonder why we feel so harried. :)

Check out this British article I found online yesterday:

Quote:

A walk in the country is an effective alternative to chemical
anti-depression treatment, a leading mental health charity said on Monday,
calling on British doctors to prescribe outdoor activities.

The Mind charity said so-called "ecotherapy" could help millions of people
with mental health problems after two studies it commissioned suggested it
could have significant benefits for sufferers in most cases.

Prescription of care farms as a treatment has been highly successful on
mainland Europe, but Britain has failed to follow the example, it added as
it launched a report "Ecotherapy: the green agenda for mental health".

Mind chief executive Paul Farmer said: "Mind sees ecotherapy as an
important part of the future for mental health.

"It's a credible, clinically-valid treatment option and needs to be
prescribed by GPs, especially when for many people access to treatments
other than anti-depressants is extremely limited."

Researchers from the University of Essex, eastern England, studied the
effect of a 30-minute walk in a country park compared with one in an
indoor shopping centre on a small sample of 20 people with mental health
problems

It found that 71 percent reported decreased levels of depression and
anxiety after the outdoor walk while 90 percent said their self-esteem
increased.

This compared with 22 percent who said their stress levels increased, 50
percent who felt more tense and 44 percent whose self-esteem plummeted
while indoors.

A second study of 108 people with mental health problems suggested nearly
all (94 percent) found "green exercise" boosted their state of mind.

Mind said prescriptions of anti-depressants were at an all-time high, with
more than 31 million written last year - a six percent increase from the
previous 12 months - because doctors had no alternatives.

In particular, prescriptions of drugs such as Prozac have risen by 10
percent.

Cheap ecotherapies could cut costs as they were readily available and had
no negative side effects. - Sapa-AFP

DQ 05/17/07 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by country_wife
It may be hard for some, but not for us. We are entirely without religion. Atheists, in fact.

That doesn't mean we can't enjoy the beauty of nature and the peaceful countryside. :baby04:

indeed, I think viewing the world through scientific eyes makes it even more wonderous and complex. you can have the joy of having real answers and understanding, wherein with religion the answer is always "because god made it that way" . how boring. :)

Heidi's_Goats 05/17/07 02:24 PM

No. I did not start this endeavor for spiritual reasons. I did it because it seems the natural thing to do. Long line of farmers. If I didn't have 4 little ones I would have more time for spiritual meditation and prayer.

Tango 05/17/07 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DQ
indeed, I think viewing the world through scientific eyes makes it even more wonderous and complex. you can have the joy of having real answers and understanding, wherein with religion the answer is always "because god made it that way" . how boring. :)

Let's not simplify a person's faith. Religious wonder is no less awe-inspiring. Science has barely a grip on explanation so it may appear more "wonder full" but it would be a useless endeavor to volley "wonder" back and forth now, wouldn't it?

Junkmanme 05/17/07 08:39 PM

If you consider "freedom" to be sort of a "religion", then, in my case, it does come into play.

I tend to be "religiously tolerant", although there are a couple of 'em that I don't have ANY RESPECT FOR.

COSunflower 05/17/07 10:05 PM

I feel CLOSEST to God when I am outside caring for the small piece of Earth that he gave me. My favorite time of the day to work outdoors is in the evening, after dinner. I think about how God walked with Adam and Eve, in the cool of the evening - asking them about their day...This is when I do the most praying :)

OUVickie 05/18/07 03:57 PM

Religious belief wasn't the reason we moved to our farm, but I've gained a renewed appreciation for the gifts of nature, since we moved out of the city. I thank the Creator everyday for what he's given me - just the simplest things like the Indian Paintbrush that's blooming on the side of the road now - things like that. It makes me feel like I have my own private chapel to worship in.

OldNavyGoat 05/18/07 09:22 PM

Organized religion and I parted company quite a while ago. I still believe in the Oversoul, but my homesteading has nothing to do with religion.

Christiaan 05/19/07 12:19 AM

We're atheists, and getting quite curmudgeonly about it, but we came back to the country because we can be surrounded by our animals, grow our own vegies, walk in the woods whenever we like and the neighbors are a neighborly distance away. Oh, and at night we can actually see the universe!!!! Now if only our neighbors weren't afraid of the dark and turn their yard lights off it would be perfect.

Tango 05/19/07 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OldNavyGoat
Organized religion and I parted company quite a while ago. I still believe in the Oversoul, but my homesteading has nothing to do with religion.

Took me a long time to come to terms with the word "religion." Having grown up and lived in the American South, it left a bad taste in my mouth. I used the word "spirituality" for all those years thinking the problem was the word. For me, religion or religious mind is a spontaneous mind that has nothing to do with a particular congregation, service, ritual, or building.


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