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05/01/07, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ZealYouthGuy
Just for your information, as one of those "religious people" that visits other people, ordinance or not it is completely legal to distribute whatever pamphlets they are distributing. There is a difference between solicitation and distribution of materials.
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We call it littering.
It's illegal in our area. I'm not sure how God rates it among the hierarchy of
sins....
I used to get these little rolled up ad newspapers in a little plastic bag at the end of the driveway. I stopped picking them up and they kept throwing them at my yard even though they were piling up. I called the local govt offices to complain, and was told it wasn't illegal.
So all my local neighbors saved up a trunk full of these papers and we dumped them off at the county parking lot for a few weeks in row...
The advertisers were not allowed to throw their papers after that.
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05/01/07, 11:04 AM
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All of the various religious witnesses are someone's child and a human being. Be polite, for heavens sake.....and if you need help, the LDS missionaries are always willing to lend a hand! So far, they've stopped by and helped me put up a ceiling, butcher and package hogs, catch same hogs before butchering.......
Nicest kids in the world. Their service speaks very highly for the church.
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05/01/07, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ozarks
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Last time we had any doings with JW.We was in the middle of nowhere.My DW was naked in the creek.JW drove on down there.I was on down the creek.Kind of freaked DW out
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05/01/07, 11:13 AM
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I have thought about this post a lot today. Seems to me that it was meant to bait... and it did. It's kind of a no-brainer to put a sign up, or a cable across your driveway with a sign, you need advice for that? I believe that we should have the right to bear arms, and my DH and DS have a few. HOWEVER, given the recent spate of violence I would be calling 911 if someone opened their door to me holding a gun and threatened me. Good grief... what has happened to common civility?
So here's my advice for the OP.... it's the same that I give my kids..... there is NO excuse for meaness.........get a sign.........lynpea
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05/01/07, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ZealYouthGuy
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there is one thing that still makes it illegal in certain circumstances the first one is that they do not have the right to distribute them on private property where it is posted no solicitation. i did not state that in my first post and should have.
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05/01/07, 11:37 AM
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We have a gate at the end of our driveway with a cable and lock. Our driveway is 1/2 mile long walk up hill thru the woods. Then if I have anyone outside in my yard I meet them with a AR-15 because you obviously didnt care to read the no trespassing signs two of which you had to walk by and the closed and lock gate that you had to walk around or climb over.
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05/01/07, 11:49 AM
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Hi, I don't have any problems with people soliciting in my area. Maybe cause I live so far out....maybe its the dogs!  .
However when people approach me elsewhere, I'll discuss religion with the best of 'em! Funny though....when people start talking/listening to me they seem to want to get on their way pretty quick!
Oh well, Mary.
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05/01/07, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arkansas Ozarks
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Originally Posted by knight88
Try answering the door wearing nothing but a bath towel. It worked for my BIL..
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Why wear a bath towel? You're in YOUR home and they're intruding.  If they don't like your attire(or lack thereof), then they can go elsewhere.
"Good grief... what has happened to common civility?"
Like not going to other people's houses and trying to convert them to YOUR religion? I've always thought being a missionary of any sort took quite a bit of arrogance, since you have to automatically assume that whatever religion the other person has is inferior to your religion.
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05/01/07, 12:25 PM
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It is amazing how uniformly disliked missionaries are, judging by this thread.
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05/01/07, 01:19 PM
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AFKA ZealYouthGuy
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Originally Posted by suburbanite
It is amazing how uniformly disliked missionaries are, judging by this thread.
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Nah, I've seen similar threads about "californicators". There was another thread not far back where someone was complaining because people from the local churches didn't care enough to invite them to church. Different strokes, different folks.
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05/01/07, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by lynpea
HOWEVER, given the recent spate of violence I would be calling 911 if someone opened their door to me holding a gun and threatened me. Good grief... what has happened to common civility?
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Common civility went out the window when the person decided to ignore my "no trespassing" signs. If the person had been in an accident and was seeking assistance I would be a bit more understanding.
A total stranger presuming that my "no trespassing" signs were not intended for them because they feel like pushing their religion is pretty insulting to DW and myself. It doesn't matter what their religion is. What they are saying (by their actions) is that despite our expressed intentions (by posting the signs), they are going to do what they want on our property regardless of our wishes.
Go ahead and call 911 if you choose. You will have to explain why you passed multiple sets of "no trespassing" signs and ignored them. You will be providing the evidence to have you charged with trespassing. What part of private property don't you (they) understand?
Common civility demands that if someone posts their property you respect it.
Mike
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05/01/07, 01:51 PM
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Signs dont work. I have a no tresspasing sign on my drive they ignore it. Why should they be any diferent than everybody else?
What I did once though.....I REALLY wanst expecting THEM was to answer the door nude. I looked shocked and said Well Im glad you guys are blind.They saidwe arnt blind. I screamed and covered up.Then asked them Then why couldnt you see the no tresspasing sign, "We didnt think it applied to us."
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05/01/07, 01:55 PM
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I think the JW's put a mark on our door in NY. The NY JWs were all very aggressive and had attitudes. We just know the Word too well for them to use their methods on us. Never come back after one visit.
We have Mormons and JWs here, they are all mostly very nice folks. They don't come back after you let them know you are happy the way you are. We have some good friends that are JWs. The Mormons are super nice but they seem "off" somehow. They just seem brainwashed, always wanting to talk about the 12 prophets and it sounds so memorized.
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05/01/07, 02:02 PM
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Location: Florida Pan Handle
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Originally Posted by mamalisa
All of the various religious witnesses are someone's child and a human being. Be polite, for heavens sake.....and if you need help, the LDS missionaries are always willing to lend a hand! So far, they've stopped by and helped me put up a ceiling, butcher and package hogs, catch same hogs before butchering.......
Nicest kids in the world. Their service speaks very highly for the church.
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Yes, I do appreciate their fevor in their religion and their desire to "save me" - the LDS were very visable after Ivan - but the JWs !!?? - I've not had trouble with them since I turned the tables on them and told them that their religion was akin to devil worship and I thought that each and everyone of them was on a fast track straight to hell. They tell me that the King James version of the Bible that I have in my home (along with a few others) is not a REAL Bible and I tell them that the Bible they use is a book of blasphemy and unless it's written in the original language that Jesus and the Israelites used they were running a super risk of having a misinterpretation that seals their fate - again, do not pass go - go directly to hell. I've not had a lot of them lately - hmmmmmmmmmm. But - tresspassing is that - tresspassing and is illegal and with no excues when posted and with a gate.
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05/01/07, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northeast Kingdom of Vermont
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A funny thing happened to a friend of ours. My dh led this 23 yo girl to the Lord, and she started coming to our Pentecostal church.
Her bf didn't like the Pentecostal church, and talked her into trying a local Baptist church. She was extremely bored. The worship seemed uninspired and uninspiring and the preaching was very dry and not focused on the Word. (No offense, Bob, I know there are many good Baptist assemblies out there, this one is just a little dead.)
The pastor talked to her and told her not to ever let anyone into her home to talk to her about their religion. He told her that the Pentecostals were going to Heaven, but they would make us stay out back because we make too much noise. (I thought that was funny, as well as inaccurate, but she was offended.) Then he told her he wanted to come and visit her to speak to her about the Baptist religion.
She didn't say anything, but she did wonder why he thought it was okay for HIM to come talk about HIS religion, but nobody else.
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05/01/07, 02:09 PM
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Member of the mod squad
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: FLW, MO
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Originally Posted by thequeensblessing
I often invite the JW's in for a doctrinal discussion when they come knocking. The last time they came by, they stayed and we discussed for over an hour. They haven't been back since.  And I was so enjoying our discussion too!  I invited them to come back anytime too. 
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Actually, I've done the same thing - was ready with a few questions. They haven't been back.
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05/01/07, 02:13 PM
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AFKA ZealYouthGuy
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I think I will start another thread about the legalities of "No Trespassing". As stated, I see one of those signs and I wouldn't visit, BUT I think many of the people on this board are under the wrong impression as to what the law says trespassing constitutes. Off to start a new thread.
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05/01/07, 02:58 PM
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Last time the JW's came to my house I told them all about bird flu until they were walking away and I was following them down the street. They haven't bothered me again in a year.
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05/01/07, 03:01 PM
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Locked gate works for us.
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05/01/07, 03:06 PM
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Wouldn't a No Trespassing sign make it legal enough to keep them away?
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