GM corn MON863

Jeff54321 · #21 04/13/07, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

Too many have watched way too much Science Fiction Movies.

I assume this is a reference to the cell phone issue. While it is certainly your full entitlement to this opinion you just might want to read some of the following articles. Or not and just think of it all as "fiction".

http://www.mercola.com/2003/apr/2/cell_phones.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/021634.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...rs_sweden.html

http://www.bioprotechnology.com/Pres...ain_Tumor.aspx

http://science.slashdot.org/article..../05/12/1228221

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/item/?ci=14583

http://www.purezing.com/living/gen_a...honecancer.htm

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chri...ell_phones.htm

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/411984

http://www.microwavenews.com/nc_jan2006.html

This severe thread drift is my fault for mentioning this and I think that any further comment on the subject should be in a new thread.

RedHogs · #22 04/13/07, 06:58 PM

As the number of people demanding food and the basic right to eat increases steadily. How is the agri industry going to produce more on an ever smaller number of acres? I see no other option but to increase the yield per acre - not to mention, the farmer is now going to have to contribute to fuel being produced. If all GM corn companies were shut down today. The execs would die rich and with full stomachs.....what about everyone one else? At what point do we say that mass- cheap foodstocks are a must?

Danaus29 · #23 04/14/07, 07:00 AM

When food or the production of starts killing people then maybe we might get some protection from big corporations. Until then we will just slowly die of cancers or increasingly poor health until it is proven that cheap, mass produced food is a death sentence.

I really should cut back on my fructose intake. It would make everyone healthier.

edcopp · #24 04/14/07, 09:45 AM

We have a window of opportunity to produce ALL of our own food and animal feeds from open pollinated seed stocks. It is our choice. If we do this then the GM seed outfits will go out of business without any further prompting.

sammyd · #25 04/15/07, 12:31 AM

That window has always been there, guess what, it isn't big enough.

RedHogs · #26 04/15/07, 10:49 AM

Most farm land is burnt up.... it takes more input today than it did 50 years ago....More tillable ground is double cropped and pushed to the limits. The necessary production to stay afloat in dollars is the driving force. The GM corn is widely popular for a reason.....it gets the the job done. It is exspensive, but twice as good as the competitor. If you can show us an alternative that dosn't involve losing the farm. More farmers would change.

BaronsMom · #27 04/15/07, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Windy in Kansas

Garbage studies to skew results in my opinion.

I read the info a few days ago but opted not to respond at that time.

One thing I did notice was the high percentage of the diet was corn. How many humans do you know that will have 10% to 30% of their entire diet of corn?

What the heck, you may soon have to find a new whipping post company as Monsanto may be sold. Just wait until the foreign investors get ahold of it and want maximum return on their investment. News articles reported the majority of those attempting to buy Monsanto was middle east investors. Whee!

Well said...totally agree!

Steve L. · #28 04/15/07, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff54321

Steve, You and I both know that in this day and age the corporate funded study is, in many cases, a bogus essay designed to blanket the truth. This is hardly a hidden fact.

The results of modern day studies are determined by the highest corporate bidder. Facts and the truth are but a minor obstacle to study results. For example (and I realize that this is way off topic), numerous studies have been done regarding cell phone use and brain tumors. Many of those studies show an alarming increase in brain tumors on the side of the head where the cell phone is held. When paid for by the cell phone manufacturers those very same types of studies show no such results. Who might be telling the truth??

I choose not to believe the phone manufacturers, Monsanto, the drug companies and so on and so forth, as reality has shown they often fail to tell the truth. On the other hand it seems that outside agencies have a much better track record for accurate reporting.

Many Americans seem more than willing to trade the health of their families for a 5% increase in the price of the stock in their portfolio. That's not my choice. Just as I choose not to ingest Monsanto's crops.

Others might place their faith and trust in Monsanto and to those I say, "I wish you well."

Jeff

And this is exactly why we need to see the studies, NOT the spin.

haypoint · #29 04/15/07, 06:19 PM

I find it interesting that folks like Jeff are against Monsanto and everything they produce, assume that all GMO are dangerous and harmful. Yet they seem perfectly satisfied with pork from Maxico, Beef from South America and fruit and honey from China. Seems to me that a product that doesn't need herbacides is safer than those that come from countries without much pesticude regulations. People don't seem to want/care about marking where their food comes from but they insist on GM be labeled. Think about your choices the next time you give your grandchild a glass of apple juice or spread some honey on a homemade dinner roll.

Jeff54321 · #30 04/15/07, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

I find it interesting that folks like Jeff are against Monsanto and everything they produce, assume that all GMO are dangerous and harmful. Yet they seem perfectly satisfied with pork from Maxico, Beef from South America and fruit and honey from China.

Okay, I give up.

The way you know that I am "perfectly satisfied with pork from Maxico, Beef from South America and fruit and honey from China." ... is:

You looked in my cupboards?

My neighbors told you what I bring home from the grocery store?

It's on my breath?

You and Homeland Security got together and went over my grocery shopping records?

George Bush told you?

You've really got me stumped on this one.

Jeff

p.s. The implication of your amazing mind reading abilities is that "folks like Jeff" are responsible for the near total destruction of the American economy because of their preference for foreign goods. To this all I can say is wake up.

haypoint · #31 04/16/07, 03:42 AM

My comments were intended to be very general. I see lots of concern over GM corn and Monsanto, but I don't see any concern over what I see as much more pressing food issues. Perhaps people that are responding with such emotion against Monsanto really are concerned over the other food issues, just silent about them.