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Old 03/12/07, 11:23 AM
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like i state in another thread i read this in the local coop paper...

new ethenol plants will soon be feeding out cattle on site, using the methane to start the ferment process, feeding mash to the cows....this will not help the farmers who raise cows...

worse case scenario...only ethenol plants will be able to raise cattle competitively for mass production of course that is a long way away... but ....
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Old 03/12/07, 03:06 PM
 
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Another corn price bubble, which will burst when they get the last research done on making ethanol out of grass and tree waste. That'll be in a year or two. Or it will burst when fuel prices go down during the next recession, and ethanol is no longer in demand.

I have seen all this production driven economics before. It was the mid-70s through 1983, in Illinois. The downside is very fierce for farmers and also for rural communities. But we never learn from history. So we're doing it again.

That includes nothing of the environmental downsides to ethanol, and they themselves are huge.
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Old 03/12/07, 06:03 PM
 
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We can keep going round and round. The grass fed beef will have no grass because the fields will be planted for bio fuel crops.
Grasslands are used for grazing because they are no good for crops.
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Old 03/13/07, 09:09 PM
 
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Grasslands are used for grazing because they are no good for crops.
Grasslands will be good for growing switch grass which is probably what they will go to which will drop the bottom out of corn. It will also make the investment in the corn ethanol plants into a bad investment, which I believe is gov't subsidized.

Funny how this gold rush with corn and the talk of global warming could create another dust bowl. Everyone and their brother getting into the high dollar corn business and using possibly questionable techniques to maximize profits at the expense of the land.
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