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03/12/07, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever
Here's my theory on the subject. To get aluminum to burn, the fire has to be extremely hot. The melting point of aluminum is about 1200ºF. I doubt if anyone burns there stove at this temp....at least for very long.
So let's say your planning on an "all night burn." You fill the woodstove up with large logs and turn the air controls and/or damper way down for a slow burn. You know this is a recipe for creosote production, so you throw some aluminum cans in the woodstove too, just for good measure on accounta you heard that cans will "clean" your stove.
Next morning, the aluminum cans are still in the woodstove....it never got hot enough to oxidize the cans. The inside of the woodstove is kinda of black and shiny. So, you follow the advice of most experienced wood burners and start a very hot fire and let it roar for 30 minutes to an hour to get rid of the creosote. During this hot burn the aluminum cans also disappear! The inside of the woodstove is all clean, the black is gone. OMG, the aluminum cans cleaned my woodstove! No, I'm afraid not, the roaring hot burn cleaned your woodstove.
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---- science!! It ruins all of these great quick fixes.
next thing you know you'll tell me not to put yeast in my septic.
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03/12/07, 03:10 PM
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Heheheheh...might as well toss in my theory...they are worth too much at the recycler to be burned up!
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04/15/14, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever
Here's my theory on the subject. To get aluminum to burn, the fire has to be extremely hot. The melting point of aluminum is about 1200ºF. I doubt if anyone burns there stove at this temp....at least for very long.
So let's say your planning on an "all night burn." You fill the woodstove up with large logs and turn the air controls and/or damper way down for a slow burn. You know this is a recipe for creosote production, so you throw some aluminum cans in the woodstove too, just for good measure on accounta you heard that cans will "clean" your stove.
Next morning, the aluminum cans are still in the woodstove....it never got hot enough to oxidize the cans. The inside of the woodstove is kinda of black and shiny. So, you follow the advice of most experienced wood burners and start a very hot fire and let it roar for 30 minutes to an hour to get rid of the creosote. During this hot burn the aluminum cans also disappear! The inside of the woodstove is all clean, the black is gone. OMG, the aluminum cans cleaned my woodstove! No, I'm afraid not, the roaring hot burn cleaned your woodstove.
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I was looking up info on the Aluminum can thing to help with creosote. You shouldn't be so cynical and crabby. The people in this thread that suggested using the aluminum never said it magically cleans out the creosote. They said it helps keep it down and keeps it more flaky and dried out so it's easier to clean. I also tried it recently due to people suggesting it. It does seem to dry it up.
Also look stuff up before you throw facts. Yes aluminum melts over 1,200ºF. But you can also look up very easily that woods burns up to 1,100ºF and the coal bead reaches over that no problem and any good fire in the winter should have a beautiful coal bed. Haven't you ever seen a aluminum can melt quite easily over an open fire? I don't know about you, but the wood I burn in my woodstove burns better than most of the crap I throw on an open fire.
Sorry for digging up an old thread, haha, but thanks for the info!
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04/16/14, 09:36 AM
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It is a myth. No matter how nice or how crabby you say it, it does not work, never has never will. Burning well seasoned wood at a decent flue temperature will limit creosote buildup.
Oxidizing aluminum is a poor way to eliminate creosote and a good way to pollute the air, your ashes and prevent recycling of an important mineral.
Next thing you'll be claiming that potato peels reduce creosote or a willow branch can find a buried pipe.
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04/16/14, 09:49 AM
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I've got a thermometer on my wood stove, even when I'm using it in the catalytic mode, I seldom see it reach 1200 degrees...
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04/16/14, 01:31 PM
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A good hot burn keeps ours clean. Our empty cans are worth a nickel, so we don't burn those!
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04/17/14, 08:23 AM
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Furnace manufacturer told me to do this yesterday
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04/17/14, 08:37 AM
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Don'cha just love it! "Cynical and crabby" and on Dobber's first post, too.
If you knew Cabin Fever like we know Cabin Fever  and his lovely wife too.
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04/17/14, 08:45 AM
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I have tossed back a few cans of Coors.
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04/17/14, 09:04 AM
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I have tossed back a few cans of Coors.
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Me too. My colonoscopy didn't detect any creosote so it must work..... 
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04/17/14, 09:33 AM
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Ya you can rack this up as a Old Wife's Tail.
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Potato peels and aluminum cans themselves don't raise the temp. The reason they supposedly "work" is because one has to burn the fire at a higher temperature to consume the potato peels or aluminum cans. Ergo the same high temp fire with or without the cans and peelings would do the same.
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04/17/14, 10:04 AM
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Me too. My colonoscopy didn't detect any creosote so it must work..... |
I never want to be caught spreading inconclusive or wrong information so my R & D goes on indefinitely.
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