Slave Quaters

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http://www.factmonster.com/dictionar...xons-line.html

Here in Missouri most consider the Missouri River the line.

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Here is some interesting reading and easily digested statistics regarding black slave owners. It never occurred to me that there would have been such a thing but I always suspected living conditions for a large number of slaves might have been on a par with the living conditions of the working class of the same era and found this searching for living condition comparisons.

(I'm not suggesting there was anything positive in slavery - just casually paddling in the history of this particular muddy puddle.)

http://www.americancivilwar.com/auth...laveowners.htm

mason dixon line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-dixon_line

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"All that is gold does not glitter..."

As for comparing the Mexicans (illegals) to the slaves - no one put them in chains to bring them here.

Actually, there are many of us who would gladly pay their way back home.

Thanks for posting those pictures. It is interesting. I actually don't know if I have ever seen slave quarters.

When we were kids we lived near a large ranch. My brother and his friend were riding horses on the ranch and they found a cemetary with just rocks for headstones. There were about a dozen. The graves were not facing the east - but were facing the west.

He was told these were slave graves. Anyone else ever hear of slaves being buried facing the opposite direction?

Based on the cite give on former slaves owning slaves themselves it wouldn't seem to give much grounds for support for those African-Americans seek financial reperations (sp?) from whites for their ancestors being salves without also going after families of those black slave owners.

When I was 5, we lived in St. Louis, in a 3 story all-cement house, not far from Lambert Field. It had 3 stories underground too.
one area on the lowest underground had stairs ending in a huge well, in which the river rose and fell, at times flooding the whole room. it has several cells with chains, where supposedly the ones fleeing on the underground railroad were kept.
the outdoor toilet was round, the water level went up and down in the hole under it--the "room" was also heavy concrete, and i remember as a little girl , that the door could never be shut!
As a "aside" we lived on the top floor, had stairs outside to the roof, and I remember, at 5, i would crawl up on the roof, and watch cars going by 3 stories down. often wonder if the house still stands. this was 1942. Mom and Dad worked in the "war plant"-.

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Here is a link some may like to see

http://www.gwu.edu/~folklife/bighouse/panel15.html

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Sometimes houses with stairs on the outside leading to an attic bedroom weren't for slaves but for traveling ministers and doctors. Have also heard they were sometimes overnight accommodation for traveling salesmen and such.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Most interesting thread Rockpile! This is a part of history I have always been interested in. I have never been to Mo. but have always wanted to visit. I passed through Virginia on my way to Panama City Beach last year but there was no time to stop. I plan to visit the US in the next couple of years and I will take time to see all the things that interest me.

I know where a house is in Texas that very much resembles the ones in the photos. There is a large house that is just about the same style, and behind it also engulfed in weeds and brush and small trees are a series of small one room houses, board and batten style with a little covered porch. I just assumed they were outbuildings like storage or summer kitchen or whatever. It's interesting to know that they may be slave houses.

There's a big,beautiful home right down in this little town I live outside of....and it has a slave house. That's what people say that little house outside is,atleast. I've heard conflicting stories.

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I sure don't know whether they were legal or illegal. All I know was that, as a kid, I felt bad for all those people who worked so hard and were so nice and lived crammed together in that tiny house. I couldn't imagine how they all got along in there, or where they all slept.

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I caution not to read too much into outbuildings. Bear in mind indebtured (sp?) servants come over from Europe and poor Caucasians may have been willing to works on farms and such for little more than room and board and a small share of the crops harvested.

When my folks had a dairy farm in Slinger, WI in the early 50s the barn had two small rooms for 'hired hands'. Seems like the ones I remember only spoke German. May have been POWs who chose to stay in the U.S. after WW-II. They were allowed only limited to the access to the house, eating their meals on an enclosed porch and probably the highlight of their week was being able to watch Friday night fights through a window from it.

Thus, those small outbuilding small houses/sheds may have been for non-slave help.

where I live theres an old farm on the south side of Chelsea,Mi. right off M52 that had been the home of some folks who were caught holding two old retarded men as slaves about 30-35 years back. they lived in a room out in one of the many barns on the property. I went by there today and the old farm is looking pretty bad since it was sold off.

Once again - no one brought them here in chains and no one is keeping them here.

I am speaking of illegals - most I have met are nice. Not all of them, but a lot.
Being nice, having sympathy, doesn't enter into the picture.

They are here because someone wanted to have workers for less money - they stay because politicians want to keep their employers happy and because touchy-feely people can't bring themselves to look at the situation as it is.

No one forces them into that situation - they are free to go.

This situation is one that is more dangerous to our country than any terrorist. We can more than likely survive a terrorist attack - many, even. Our country, as we know it, will not survive this invasion.

By the way, if they were all crammed into small quarters - donuts to dollars, they were illegals. The Americans who are of Mexican descent usually don't live that way. None I have ever seen and I live in Texas.

I have never lived on a place that had slaves, but I have toured the Old Slave House that was mentioned in an earlier post. It is in Southern IL and it is very interesting. Apparently from the web site, it has never been reopened. It should be as there is lots and lots of history there to pass on. You get a chill when you are in the upper quarters where the slaves were chained and sometimes beaten. I would like to take my GD to tour it someday.

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There's an old cabin in Texas that I saw one day. It had a sign out front that had my family name on it so naturally I stopped to read it. Turned out it was one of my ancestors original cabins they built when they moved to Texas. Later they built a new place and they gave that cabin to one of their slaves. Wish I could remember more details about it. I'm gonna go down and see it again and take pictures this time. I hope I can find it again, I think it's in Grapevine, or maybe Denton. Somewhere in that area.

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