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Old 01/29/07, 08:25 PM
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I would think that the fuel being in barrels themselves would be a baffle of sorts. Especially full barrels. Sheesh, it it gets too bad, I'll just drop it off at the nasty neighbors place and be shed of it!

Since you probably noticed, the trailer isn't licensed, so I'm not too worried about legalities. Besides, I'm in the sticks and fully intend to keep the trailer on my place unless there is some compelling need to move it elsewhere. It's just a portable fuel depot/generator storage.
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Old 01/29/07, 08:37 PM
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Sheesh, there seem to be more questions than answers here. What are the rest of you doing for fuel? I know many of you have gasoline generators. What will you fuel them with say there is a terrorist manages to damage the grid for an extended period of time? Gas stations don't operate without electricity either, not to mention that they are a long way off for most of us.

I'm thinking that with judicious use, a couple hundred gallons of fuel will keep my freezers and other necessary powered items running for months. Besides the freezers, all I need is to charge my small battery bank, which in turn helps keep me in touch with the rest of the world (assuming there still is one).

Other than that I can heat with wood, light with kerosene lamps and cook with propane.
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I use a recycled air compressor tank as a tranport tank for diesel. The tank is mounted in a small trailer and I transport around 300 gallons when the tank is full. Previously I used an on farm fuel storage tank but those tanks are thinner walled and crack from transporting. I can buy fuel and transport it about 5 miles for a $40/tank savings. I pull the tank to the site where the fuel is to be used rather than bring the tractor to the fuel.
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Old 01/29/07, 09:00 PM
 
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Around here just about every house has a 350-gallon tank on a stand. Have never heard of anyone losing fuel or tanks, even in the really rural areas.
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Old 01/29/07, 11:50 PM
 
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Sheesh, there seem to be more questions than answers here. What are the rest of you doing for fuel?
Gravity feed 300 gallon barrels on stands, or 500 gallon barrels on the ground with electric pumps.

Anything else gets to be a big big hassle with insurance, fire dept, epa, DOT.

You know you can't transport fuel in a tank bigger than 113 gallons or so, unless you have a whole host of DOT items, pretty much a full professional driver setup with placarding.

Insurance cos understand a fuel tank for a farm, but they don't understand a fuel depot inside a horse trailer - that would be outside the norm & freak them out.

EPA (often enforced by local county etc. offices) would totally freak out with underground storage, but are used to the 300 & 500 gal typical farm tanks. Of late you might need containment & a concrete pad for a new install. An old trailer stuffed full of barrels that aren't labeled for fuel & not the right hose, nozzles, etc. will freak these folks out.

Bulk delievery companies are more & more required to (by EPA & by their own insurance cos) required to follow a lot of rules on what type & location of a tank they can deliver to. If you design for this, you can save a lot of money by not paying fuel tax (you are doing off-road uses I am assuming) & get a bulk discount on the fuel. This would pay for the tank & structure in a few years, as well as save you a lot of work.

That is how it is. Whether govt/insurance meddling is good or bad; or whether you want to follow those types of rules are different things. Just mentioning how it is.


Now, you are worried about fire, so you are storing fuel in a trailer.

That scares me! In the heat of the moment (literally), you are going to hook up an old trailer with only one axle that has sat how many years on old tires, & take off down the roads with fires roaming around, loaded with gasoline sloshing around??????? And one axle, it is going to slosh all over.....

Yikes!!!!!!!!!!

Put up a 300 gal tank far away from your buildings as much per EPA-type code as everyone is happy with, and when a fire comes, get going, don't go to pulling a fire bomb behind you. Just go!

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Old 01/29/07, 11:55 PM
 
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bare - beyond the legality, I'd be worried about your safety in transporting fuel in a trailer filled with two large tanks, etc. I know you said you don't intend to, but it's worth pointing out.

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What state do you live in? In the states north of MO you will have trouble with storing anything without Government Permision. In the South you will not have ny trouble at all. I used to have a 100 and 300 gal tank in a hourse trailer and used it to cary gasioline and Delel to our tractors and combines. This work verry well and had no probilems.
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