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01/15/07, 10:55 PM
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A combination lock gun safe isn't that expensive. Why take a chance? I couldn't live with myself if any of my kids or their friends got hurt out of curiosity. I believe that if only 2 people know the combination- me and god, I can keep the guns loaded in the safe and they are ready to use in 10 seconds and there is no chance of an accident or some stranger borrowing them.
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01/15/07, 11:23 PM
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I think a lot of the problem today with children and guns is that they see so much shooting and killing on telelvision, movies and video games that they really do not understand the full impact of their actions (pointing a gun at someone in jest).
When I was a child growing up, shooting someone for FUN was so beyond the realm of my experience that it would have been the absolutely last thought to ever enter my head. Unfortunately, today's children are different.
I can understand the cautions about other peoples kids. You can train up your own but you cannot predict the actions of someone who has not had the same loving care. Even though I was raised with loaded guns all over the place, I think if I did have children coming over, that I would probably unload mine and lock them up for safety's sake. Thank goodness I don't have to worry about it.
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01/15/07, 11:36 PM
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I'm reading the posts and laughing, sort of, cringing really. If spanking is so effective, why do you need to hit a 17 yr old in the mouth? Why do you have to do it over and over? Like I said, I've never resorted to hitting any of my kids, and I have three 17 yr olds and a 22 yr old. More respecting children you'd never meet. I don't condone violence when teaching children. If you want to beat your kids and call it something else, that's great - I will kiss the ground and be glad you never come in contact with mine.
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01/16/07, 04:37 AM
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Back to the guns in the home thing....We keep all our guns and ammo in a gun safe and the key is hung around my neck. This way I know with reasonable certainty that there will never be a tragedy caused by one of my guns (unless of course it is caused by me  )
I don't care who you are or how well you've taught your kids, there can always be that brain "misfire" that we all hear about from time to time, "Oh my Johnny couldn't have done that, he's so well behaved." And as others here have said, there's always the kids they bring home. And accidents happen all the time to people who have handled guns for years.
If you're hiding your guns or the key to your gun safe thinking the kids couldn't find them you're kidding yourself. Kids are curious and remarkable creatures, from what I've read here some of you would be truly shocked if you knew what you didn't think your kids knew.
There are few things worse in life than having a child killed, especially if it's by one of your own guns and you could have prevented it. I've seen it and it is truly awful.
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01/16/07, 05:23 PM
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" DocM
Flag waving queer.
I'm reading the posts and laughing, sort of, cringing really. If spanking is so effective, why do you need to hit a 17 yr old in the mouth? Why do you have to do it over and over? Like I said, I've never resorted to hitting any of my kids, and I have three 17 yr olds and a 22 yr old. More respecting children you'd never meet. I don't condone violence when teaching children. If you want to beat your kids and call it something else, that's great - I will kiss the ground and be glad you never come in contact with mine."
Emphasis mine.
Could be I'm not raising any "Flag Waving Queers". I'm more interested in raising responsible young men and women who don't blindly wave flags and ...better not go there.
Doug
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01/16/07, 05:32 PM
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You have to controll access to guns because there is no such thing as an unloaded gun.If you cant then don thave guns
Its just that simple
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01/16/07, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by botebum
" DocM
I'm reading the posts and laughing, sort of, cringing really. If spanking is so effective, why do you need to hit a 17 yr old in the mouth? Why do you have to do it over and over? Like I said, I've never resorted to hitting any of my kids, and I have three 17 yr olds and a 22 yr old. More respecting children you'd never meet. I don't condone violence when teaching children. If you want to beat your kids and call it something else, that's great - I will kiss the ground and be glad you never come in contact with mine."
Emphasis mine.
Could be I'm not raising any "---------------". I'm more interested in raising responsible young men and women who don't blindly wave flags and ...better not go there.
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That was well over the top Please edit , no need to be hateful
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01/16/07, 05:43 PM
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His/Her self description. not mine. I stand by what I say and my kids would not hold me in such high esteem if I didn't.
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01/16/07, 07:42 PM
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Guns in the home
I have them, and they all have the trigger lock on them. My parents have them and they don't. But the boys know not to touch. That and they are in their room.
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01/16/07, 07:44 PM
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umm PyroDon
You might want to look at DocM's avitar, He calls himself a "flag waving *&****"
I don't think that the other poster was being rude, just calling the kettle black.
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01/16/07, 07:54 PM
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You never lived till your husband of 26 years points a loaded rifel at you. Oh of course it gets better when your son comes and get the hand gun out of the dresser drawer for your husband, like you did know it was there!! I told him if he can live with it I guess I can too. Wish me luck!!
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01/16/07, 08:51 PM
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I don't know how we got from guns to spankin's but here is my opinion:
If you feel the need to have a loaded gun but are worried about it getting into the wrong hands, why not keep the pistol in one hidden, easy acessible high place and a loaded clip (assuming that you have a semi-auto) in another seperate easily acessible but hidden place in the bedroom. I can find that clip and load it in the dark in seconds flat.
Pistols are fun, but there is nothing like the "chick-chunk" sound of cocking 12 gauge in the dark to tell an intruder that he has entered the wrong house.
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01/16/07, 10:58 PM
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I don't keep guns in my house because I learned a lesson when my boys were 9 and 12. I bought them a BB gun. Thought that was supposed to be a fun thing (teach them respect  ).... but I soon learned that if kids don't grow up with responsible gun owners, then even a BB gun is going to crack some windows and some neighbors' headlights (even a fisherman out in his aluminum boat!)...and even with the most innocent, law abiding and well-behaved kids.
oops!! A $40 BB gun cost me about $400 in damages over 3 months and then the BB gun got unceremoniously thrown into the back of a friends pick up truck as he was driving away.
Nope! Sorry!! I'm a total supporter of the NRA and will back up the Minutemen on our borders anyday, but in my own situation I'm smart enough to know that my sons would have far better success defending our home with a baseball bat or shovel than they would a gun  (paintballs are okay though)
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01/16/07, 11:23 PM
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Sharona, Spending time with your kids, reinforcing the saftey and responsibility are key to proper handling and saftey issues. If you tell them the rules and cut them loose with the gun- no good end result. To give kids the responsibilities you demand, you must demonstrate them. If you spend time goofing off- the kids goof off, if you spend time in church- the kids will go to church, if you spend your time.....See what I mean? If you are not interested in shooting then you have a choice when your kids want to shoot- get interested or find something else for them to be interested in that you are willing to participate in.
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01/16/07, 11:28 PM
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Check your state laws abide by them .
As to how you keep your firearms Its your choice , you know your kids , either they can be trusted or they cant. If they can great , if they cant take a long look in the mirror and ask why.
My personal opinion is that today too many parents "protect " their kids right into a jail cell . Teach responsiblity early , accept no excuses, Love is given trust and respect are earned .
As a parent your first and most important duty is to teach your children, If you fail them no matter what else you acomplish in your life you will always be a failure.
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01/17/07, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by botebum
" DocM
Flag waving queer.
Could be I'm not raising any "Flag Waving Queers". I'm more interested in raising responsible young men and women who don't blindly wave flags and ...better not go there.
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This is the dumbest response TO DATE that I've read on HST, and I've read a lot of dumb comments. Not spanking children doesn't make them gay. (I was never spanked, and everyone thinks I'm pretty responsible). I know a heck of a lot of gay peers who were whipped, beat, spanked, hit, whatever you want to call it, as children - and I'll have to say, most of them are pretty messed up. On the other hand, all four of my kids (never spanked) are hetero, as far as I know. Only the most ignorant people on earth would find a correlation between one and the other. Really.
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01/17/07, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by countrydreamn
You might want to look at DocM's avitar, He calls himself a "flag waving *&****"
I don't think that the other poster was being rude, just calling the kettle black.
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Wait, excuse me. THIS is the dumbest comment I've ever seen.
I'm a flag waving, patriotic, proud GAY MOTHER of a Navy Airman. That's pretty queer, don't you agree? Deal with it.
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