Census

Please post the name and website of this census so that people can become aware of what it is....when they were targeting me, I looked at the website and reasoned that the information was for business...like where to put a bank branch, chain store, etc. Somehow I always thought business should do their own research.

This is not the constitutionally approved 10 year census. The Congress that just passed out did this one and it is for business. The woman who harrassed me was here several times, would not go away when I quietly closed the door, waited for me to leave the house, and her last act was: standing outside my window looking in while reading the penalties I would receive for not complying.

She never produced ID until her last visit.....only a brochure in the door. Who was she without identification? From the brochure, I went to the website and now wish I remembered the name.....everyone should be aware that this is more invasion of privacy....more government and business accumulation of private statistical information! The implications are frightening to me. I didn't and won't be intimidated into filling it out.

This census will be taken continually, day in and day out, to find out which areas are growing, etc. for business. Government should not be in this one....once every ten years is plenty.

T

http://www.census.gov/

What is wrong with this. They collect the information for redistributing finds such as roads, schools and other projects in your area, Not filling it out or not filling it out correctly just lessons the chances for your area getting it fair share of said funds, and not doing so is just plain nutz.

that time again? :baby04:
last time the interviewer tried to push her way in my house [didn't get far]
told her the basic's and asked her to leave or ill call the sherrf

I pulled this back out of the trash. You might think not answering is nuts but here are some of the questions. What do these have to do with roads?

#36 Whom did this person work for?
#37 Kind of business
#39 What kind of work?
#40 Job duties
#41 income for the last 12 months
a] wages, salary, commissions bonuses, tips from all jobs
b] self employment income
c] intreset, dividends,rental income, income from estates and trusts
d] social security
e[ spplemental social security
f] public assistance
g] retirement, survivor,or disability payments
h] any other source of income
#42 Total income for the last 12 months [add total income in questions 41a to 41h

Hmmmm...

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This was posted on here months ago I already went to the web site at that time Took It and saw Not One question that I would not have wanted to answer.
And not doing so and thinking "outside Of The Bun" is just pure tin foil hat stuff.

If they mail you the census questionaire then they obviously already know your name and address. And since they are also the ones who issue you your social security number, then they already know that too.
You'd think with that information they should be able to find out everything else they need to know.

My MIL is a census worker- she's some sort of regional supervisor, so she's the one who comes out if you don't respond to the form in the mail or to the person who calls on the phone. Please don't send your attack dogs out after her! After all, she's just doing her job!

You know what you all should do? Save yourselves a lot of trouble and the tax payers a lot of money and just tell them "I'm not comfortable answering most of these questions. Can you please tell me which ones are absolutely essential?" And guess what? 99 times out of a hundred, that will be just fine with them. They can cross you off their list and get on with life. Believe it or not, those census takers are actual real live people.

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This is important to read. This is not the dicennial census mandated by the constitution. This is an addition from the recent congress. The website for this census is:http://www.census.gov/acs/www/

Look at this statement from this part of the website:
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics/What/What1.htm

Using Data from the 2005 American Community
Survey
8/24/06
INTRODUCTION
America is changing and so is the Census. In 1790, the year of the first census, 3.9 million
individuals were counted. Over two hundred years later, the number is approaching 300 million.
As our Nation expands, so do its needs, specifically the need for more current and up-to-date
information. The Census Bureau is using a powerful new tool to adjust to this increased need -
the American Community Survey.
The American Community Survey (ACS) is a part of the Decennial Census Program. The
decennial census takes place every ten years, the next being conducted in 2010. The 2010
Census will continue to count the population to support the Constitutional mandate to provide
population counts needed to apportion the seats in the U. S. House of Representatives. States
develop redistricting plans based on this important information. The ACS will not provide these
counts. The ACS will provide annually updated data on the characteristics of population and
housing. The Text Box, What is the American Community Survey? provides more information on
the ACS.
This guide includes a broad set of information relating directly to the 2005 ACS. It covers the
type of information produced from the ACS, including measures of quality that are critical for
users to consider. It explains specifically which geographic areas will receive data products from
the 2005 ACS and how users can determine if a specific area is eligible to receive ACS products
in 2005. This guide includes details on each of the specific 2005 ACS data products, along with
tips on how to access and use these products. A timetable for the 2005 ACS data releases is
included. This document includes guidance on the use and interpretation of ACS estimates along
with references and contacts for users who need additional help.
INFORMATION PRODUCED FROM THE ACS
What is the American Community Survey?
The American Community Survey (ACS) is a new approach to producing critical
information about the characteristics of local communities. It will eliminate the need for a
long form in the 2010 Census and is a key part of the Census Bureau’s Decennial Census
Program. The ACS publishes social, housing, and economic characteristics for demographic
groups covering a broad spectrum of geographic areas in the United States and Puerto Rico.
The ACS shifted from a demonstration program with a different sample design and sample
size to the full sample size and design in 2005. It became the largest household survey in
the United States, with an annual sample size of about 3 million addresses. Every year the
ACS can support the release of single-year estimates for geographic areas with populations
of 65,000 or more. The ACS will accumulate sample over 3-year and 5-year intervals to
produce estimates for smaller geographic areas including census tracts and block groups.
For more information about the ACS, you can refer to the ACS Design and Methodology
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This is the government using computers to gather every tiny bit of information about people. What for?


T

I didnt say they were attack dogs, just BIG and most people dont get out of their vehicles with 3 Great Danes and a shepard cross looking at them through the car window.

When I called the bureau I said I had no problem filling out the basics and the woman on the phone said it had to be filled out in its entirety. I most be the 1 out of the 100 because it was NOT fine with the person on the phone.

I understand that the workers "have a life" and are real people but it still does not give them the right to ask what my income is or where it comes from.

I worked for the Census Bureau for the 1990 census, one of the most interesting jobs I ever had, but then I'm a people watcher so the nuttier the head of household the better Lots of funny stories.

Just so you know, if you threaten the census taker, or cause them harm it's a federal offense and the fines and prison time should be taken seriously. And if you don't answer the questions - they will ask you neighbors. You want your neighbors answering for you?

And if you are not already aware, when it comes time to decide how much and where your tax dollars are alloted, information from the census is a big factor. The more they know about your area the more likely you are going to get the advantages of better environment, schools, roads, help with farm expenses, larger grants etc.

People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.

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marlene

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I will weigh in on this to say, As a geneologist the most important tool we have are the census records. Please consider that your gggrandchildren might want to know about your life. Would you rather be remembered as Tracy ,age 33, mother of 6, wife of ? Or Tracy, Age 33, mother of 6, wife of ? occupation Advertising/Agriculture income $5000. (amazing raised 6 children on almost nothing) Education : 8th grade (but she homeschooled her children) She must have been an incredible woman!
I understand that privacy is an issue, but as for public information, there is a 70 yr black out period on these records. Sorry if this is long and drawn out but just wanted to point out a different use for the same information.

Since you are using census reports from 70+ years ago, for geneological research, I'll let you wait until 2010 to discover what information will not be on those forms, I'm thinking a geneologist revolt.

Marlene

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According to my CPA the Census form is the only one that provides a penality for being correct. There is no penality for errors just a bill from him to fill it out correctly. It's a bill for preparing the form. I know people don't use their CPAs for these forms often but it's just a thought. He does them for older people who they do all their bills etc. and they get worried about official forms.

I think most of this info is in their computor banks already and its some kinda scam to either catch you in a lie or they are just to lazy to look it up..Several yrs ago I flat out told the lady I wasn,t gonna fill it out.Then they started coming in the mail with my nam eon it.I later learned they got my name from a neighbour.I told them to get the neighbour to fill it out.several weeks later a man came to the door and informed that i would HAVE to fill it out.I declined.Months went by and then a cop came to the door and said"Gord..This is stupid But I have to serve you" and handed me a summons to appear in court.He and I discussed it and he said"technically they have gone way past the time allowed to procecute and you can get away with declaring it as not being had a "rite to speedy trail"I went to court twice.I lived remote and as this is FEDERAL crime, a federal procicutor had to come 100 miles to do his duty.TWICE.The judge asked why I wouldn,t fill it out..I explained that the questions were too personal and if the census was anonymous,how did they find out my name and how did they know I didn,t fill it out.I also stated that my rite to speedy trial had been violoted..He said"that don,t count here" and offered to let me fill out the form one last time..I declined and was given a $100 fine.I spose I,m famous since they told me i was the first in ONtario to be convicted after being given the opportunity to fill it out at trial.I believe the gov has waaay more info on me than I care for them to have and by filling out that form(s) I would be just serving it to them on a platter.along with my head.

Nuff said
Gord

as for ..what income and from where?doesn,t the gov know how much and from where on your taxes.Just another beauracracy justifying their existance.And who lives in my house? and what nationality..sorry bud..these folks from outter space don,t want their presence known...YET.
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more 2 cents
gord

Better get another layer of tin foil on

Lets see....non warrant searches of your house are now legal.Guess if I wanted to do that might help to know when i leave for work,what roads I travel (handy on round-up day) the layout of my house,who might be there,income to measure my intelligence or cleverness,or resources that might be used to protect said dwelling.Bet they can come up with quite the profile on you,extrapolating all that info.

Just harmless info my foot.They want that info,all in one spot for a reason,and trust me,it ISNT for YOUR benefit.Far from it.

I fought the simple census.Had someone pretty much at my house daily for weeks.Finally gave em some info,but not happy about it.

Sorry,what part of none of your business do they not understand???????

As for ask the neighbors,knock yourselves out,dont care what they think or what they think they know,or dont know.

Guess what,I dont need an Eastern European Police State,and this is EXACTLY what they did,right down to getting the neighbors to 'spy' on you for their databases.

BooBoo

The thing is they say you must fill it out. But it doesn't say you must be honest.