Problem with Landowner!

mtn jin I see you are pretty New here.This not being a Hunting Forum you will find most here have no idea about Hunting Hounds.But on the most part they are pretty good bunch as far as Homesteading.

I know the problem you were having and knowing where you live they were wrong.But you have this problem every so often it just goes with the territory.

Wish you luck this Season.Sure wish I could go with you running them Dogs.

big rockpile

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Hmmmm not if the SSS comes into play

It sounds like to me that you set out hunting on your own property and the park and everything was fine. But dogs do not know where the property lines are so that causes a problem with some people who hate hunting anything. You tried to stop them and catch them. Goodness what else could you do.

I don't mind my neighbors when they ask to hunt on me, but I sure hate those Western Shore smarties we get sometimes. I send them packing as soon as I can.

Also, some people are dead set against hunting. They really should be somewhere in the city so they don't have to worry about it. But, that is not how it works.

One woman I know of would not let anybody hunt on her. The farmer who tilled her land could hardly make it because every crop was eaten up practically by herds of deer.

I am sorry you had trouble. You just crossed a crotchy old woman as far as I am concerned. She wouldn't be kind to the President if he were hunting.

That is just my feelings.

Not always - if the lady had sheep, the dog would be fair game.

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You folks have a state annual tax on dogs? Wow.

--->Paul

Hunting deer with dogs is legal in lots of states. Also, SHOOTING a dog just for being on your property is ILLEGAL in a lot of states. Some of you need to chill out and act more grown up .

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Just because I am dead set against someone hunting on my property doesn't mean I should be somewhere in the city! There's more to living in the country than killing stuff!

And I guess I am a crotchy old woman because I wouldn't be kind to the President if I caught him hunting on my property. Actually, I probably wouldn't be kind to him regardless of what he was doing on my property!

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Yup my Grandpa in KY would not have threatened anything he would have just shot the dogs he shoots 10-30 dogs a year that folks drop off to run wildlife in his area.

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She said it best.

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[QUOTE=mtn_gin And I don't believe that it is legal to kill dogs for no reason and also I don't think it is morally right either. Hope your 100% controlled dog never gets off of its very very short leash. And I know that your land is your land.[/QUOTE]
My grandpa never killed the hounds he just held them if they showed up at the house and gave them back if they came looking or else gave them away.If their are just mutts that people drop off and are running deer and such they need to be shot, would it be better to let them starve to death slowly if they cant hunt good or what about the ones that form packs and are dangerous? when I was a kid I was afraid to go out some summers because of wild dog packs atleast till Grandpa shot them all. One neighbors dogs killed my registered nubians and he never paid for them. I have another neighbor who has a little dog I see on my place sometimes I have seen him chasing down armadilows but as far as I know he left my poultry alone first time I see him chasing them though he will be a dead dog.

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Face it, 300+million people in USA changes things. I dont like land chopped up in tiny little bits and sold for high prices out in country but those same city folk who made the big bucks off doing such (and the cheap immigrant labor) then wonder why they cant hunt any more.

As to the good ole boys who've always hunted there, why didnt your grand daddy buy few hundred acres back when it was affordable. Why should everybody else subsidize your wants and pleasures? Do you offer to pay a part of my land taxes or share anything you shoot? I've yet to see a hunter offer that. Section of land around here would only run you couple million, just buy you a hunting spot...... Or there are now buisinesses that own a section or two of land (or hunting rights to it, yes they BUY the hunting rights) and rent out to those wanting to hunt. Believe me they dont think you have some natural right to hunt for free on THEIR land though it has to be full time job for several people to enforce those rights on that big of a property.

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I am baffled by the hunter's here!!
Just because hunting with dogs is legal in your area, that does not make trespassing legal for you.
The argument you are making is so ridiculous that its about to make my head explode!

I'm trying to think of an analogy so that you might "get it".

How about this:

If fireworks are legal, I can set them off if I want to.
But maybe my yard is so small that my still burning fireworks land on your roof.
You say, "hey, keep your fireworks off my roof!"
Then I argue that the fireworks "don't know where the property line is".

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brp, Beg to differ sir - my dad always had hunting dogs, my sister raises and trains German Shorthairs for a living, my daughter bird hunts with her dogs. Running dogs were a necessary thing at one time in this country when the weapons were "primative" and game was more plentiful. They are NOT a necessry item now days with the development of longer range rifles, super scopes, etc. Running dogs is now a "sport" which is not very sporting in my mind. The dog owners most probably don't NEED the meat to feed their family, they are running dogs for the fun of it!

the unnatural part comes when the Prey can't reach the coon that escaped to a tree but some lazy hunter lolligags in and shoots it - even though technically,
the coon had the "sporting" chance and WON.

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Go coon hunting some night and see how "Lazy" you can be. You obviously have no idea whatsoever about what you're saying. Comments like this one reveal nothing but ignorance about the whole subject.

But hey! It's a free country (somewhat)! Keep talking! We dog hunters are getting a real kick out of reading the hilarious notions of those who've never done it!

It's amazing how wise people are who have never even once shined a tree or watched some hounds do what they were born to do.

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Again, you're showing ignorance...Game has NEVER been more plentiful than it is right now, thanks to wildlife conservation and management which is paid for almost EXCLUSIVELY by HUNTERS through their license fees.

Hunting the game is part of the CONSERVATION process, by controlling populations and thereby producing healthier wild populations.

You're welcome to your opinions, even if they're all wrong...but you might want to do a little reading on the VITAL role that hunting plays in wildlife management.

Hunting with dogs IS a sport...the dogs LOVE it...and I DO use the meat to feed my family.

So now, let's see...hunting with dogs is a legal activity, it aids in wildlife conservation and wild animal prosperity, it provides lean, untainted, all natural protein for the family table, it's a good source of healthy outdoor activity for those involved. Yep, I can see now why you hate it...NOT!

By the Way, I've NEVER advocated trespassing. Sometimes it happens. That's why landowners have legal recourses. Someone trespasses, exercise your rights...go for it...

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First off it is Illegal to Hunt Furbearers without Dogs in most States.Some Game is so nocturnal that you would never see it without Dogs,but you can only hunt it durring daylight hours.Some places the Game is in such thich Brush to where you will never see it as in the Post that started this.

As far as running Game into the Ground it is unheard of now days.Most Game is run in a circle,not fast just at a steady pace.Hogs on the other hand are run until they are stopped or cornerd.But the thing with Hogs most states that have them are trying to eradicate them because they are causing major problems.

You say your Daughter uses her Dogs to Bird hunt.I've did alot of Bird Hunting with and without Dogs.Are you saying Dogs are not needed.Because you have longer range Shotguns and it is not necessary to shoot Game anyway?

Most everyone I know use the meat and yes they Love their Dogs.

big rockpile

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The issue here is not pro or anti dog hunting. It is taking a dog afield either insufficiently trained to obey commands, or else taking a dog where it does not belong. (Insufficient permission for the dogs to run where they will.) Let's phrase this another way: suppose you were sitting in your living room when the next door neighbor decided his dogs needed the fun of romping through your house, maybe or maybe not pooping in the middle of your lr carpet. We all see the folly and disrespect in that immediately. Same principle applies to rural land: it may look empty, but unless it is public land open to the public, or you have permission of the landowner, you and your dogs do not belong there. Plain and simple, respect other people's property.

I am sorry, but I cannot understand how in one sentence some of you can talk about how horrible and unfair it is to the wildlife to be run by dogs..and then in another sentence talk about killing the dogs for being on your property I have hunters on my property as well and have had no problems. I don't hunt...because I don't have time, but I would never knowingly be mean and hateful to someone who was just trying to get his dogs. I understand how many hunters have been rude and I consider this another thing entirely. I am only rude AFTER someone has been rude to me...not because someone else before had been rude...I think when people talk about needing to control the dogs...they should actually learn to control their own emotions and not take things out on other people or poor innocent dogs only doing what they have been trained and bred to do...

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I think whenshe said you had been onher ground she ment you a a group....including the dogs.

If you were not with them how do you know the dogs " did not stop to bother anything"? Why is stopping relevant? They might have bothered things without stopping.
Most importantly why aren't your dogs trained?

Great neighbors you got there! How dare he protect himself.THUS SSS