Help-- Economic Development nightmare!

Zeal

Let me get this straight. You think because the feds, the state and the county are involved then there can be wrong done? I don't know where you have been most of you life but these are usually the CRIMINALS. Even more than private landowners this lineup of misfits, welfare candidates and jack booted thugs should be held accountable for any damage they are involved with. By all means enjoin them in any legal action simply because that is where the money is coming from and public employees are helping with the work (and isn't this concept of some interest to the taxpayers of her county - I know I couldn't even get the road maintainer to grade my lane here).

And yes, the list I provided extended to concerns that may or may not be present in this instant case. Take for example the well issue and where santitary sewage goes. Machining usually uses a lot of water and it has to come from somewhere and go somewhere. Employees usually make a lot of sewage and it has to go somewhere (we can guess where its' source is). Would you object to a sewage lagoon that might leach into your well next to your property line? Or is this place somehow special and these issues are not going develop?

have the effluent tested.

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"All that is gold does not glitter..."

That was my thought too...first of all, why should tax payers be paying to develop private land, or expand his business? Tax payers pay for the county workers. And how did he get so much from Katrina money that he not only gets to fix storm damage, but also expand his business to such a degree? Are all other victims in this area getting those kinds of resources?

I did get a driveway put in on my property by the county, but it was in exchange for letting them relocate the county road to a new location, which required me to have a driveway longer than before. They have to be getting something out of this, or they wouldn't be there.

I'm with you on this, Zeal.

Sure is unfortunate the person lost the woodland they were enjoying, but hey, it wasn't their woodland. They need to enjoy their 4 acres, & not try to control other people's land.

Some zoning is a good thing.

If one wants to prevent having neighbors, one needs to buy 100's of acres, not 4 or 5.

You just are not buying any type of privacy or control with only 4-5 acres.....

Mind you, I can sympithize with the issue.

But, I sure _hope_ there isn't a darn thing they can do about it!

--->Paul

it would be sorta cool if people had a bit more consideration of others. perhaps i am too moral, but if i started a business at home, i hope it would be something beneficial to the neighborhood or at least not disturbing to it. i can see farming there, or maybe a greenhouse or small scale shop of some kind, but starting an industrial operation in a traditionally residential or rural setting is just plain obnoxious.

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"All that is gold does not glitter..."

LOL, ask a few farmers here in OHIO who have owned family farms for decades and are all of a sudden surrounded by a "neighborhood" and forced to quit farming how appreciated they were. Even though they traditionally rural/residential. Sorry... you own YOUR land, not mine or someone elses.

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Thats stinks!
But if everything was legal than its just too bad for you. Cant dictate how someone else uses their land! If you wanted that, you should buy it.

When we bought our house we soon decided to buy the 5 acres behind our original 2 acres just to prevent what happened to you. It was a financial strain as land here is 25k an acre. But seeing how 5 houses have been built along our property line in the last year alone I did the right thing. I feel bad for you, but think you need to learn what is yours and what is not!

We aren't told, but it might seem the business was there before they moved in?

You are pre-judging the business, which is perhaps not so moral.

Would it be fair for that buiness to say they were here first, no one shoulda moved in & built a house next to them?

There was a business, and it saw fit to expand. It would appear it did so legally, with govt help - there are a great many legal hoops to go through to build an industrial business, one doesn't stick a pipe out to a stream any more.

He saw fit to take down all the trees on his property. While too bad - they were his trees.

Why should anyone else control this person's property?

If you want trees, be sure to buy your own. If they aren't your trees, it's not your business to try to control them.

Seems pretty simple.

If you ran your own business, you are _sure_ to offend someone. Noise, traffic, smells. You will _not_ leave an invisible footprint! Try it sometime. You will see the other 1/2. People will want to tell you what to do with your stuff, day & night. And how to run your business.

--->Paul

The problem here is that some people might find the farming or the greenhouse obnoxious too.

I do feel for the original poster, but those of you (not you Meloc) who think she should sue or exect some kind of damage payment, think this through a little further. If she gets to collect damages because her view got ruined by this business, then what's to say a farmer's neighbor shouldn't get damages when the farmer decides to start plowing and fertilizing a new field next to their house, or moves cows or pigs closer to their property then they used to be.

The choices are this: 1) Buy enough land so that neighbors won't bother you. 2) Buy in a place that has zoning that will keep anyone (including you) from doing things some might find offensive. 3) Buy something in the middle and hope for the best.

Buying land in the country and assuming and hoping and wishing the surrounding land will never change is folly. Either buy where usage is strictly zoned, or cope. You can sell and move, or put up your own living fence. Either way, it is your responsibility. After all, if you decided to use your land in a different way, say bring in different animals, etc, you would want that freedom.

What bothers me most about this thread is that many people have fought and died to keep this country the land of the free. Without knowing the whole truth it would appear that the business guy owned the land, has a business on it and is free to do so as stated in our constitution.

But, as he exercises his freedoms, there are those who wish to oppress him. To dictate what he can and cannot do with his life and his property. I was under the impression that this was why America went to two world wars and numerous others of less than world wide status.

This sickens me. I don't want any of MY neighbors to be telling me what I can and cannot do on my property, with my property, etc.

The context here is all within legal boundries as in he's not dumping radioactive material into the ground, or spraying cyanide into the air, etc.

It is too bad that the setting around your property was disturbed. I wouldn't want it to happen to me. But, he owns the property and has a right to do so. If you wanted to preserve that environment, then you needed to own it so that nobody could do what they did.

Some of these posts have had the 'ole 'Let's see what kind of loophole we can get this guy on' attitude. THAT sickens me even more.

SUE HIM. RAT ON HIM. SPREAD RUMORS THAT HE'S CAUSING ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS.

garbage. leave him alone. civil suit...STUPID. THAT should be criminal. It's a fraudulent waste of MY tax dollars.

I was once told the reason you buy acreage [ aside from actually farming it and whatever] is to get distance between you and your neighbors. This is what he was talking about. Live in the middle of 50 acres and nobody will be able to get close enough to you to cut down your view or whatever.

and what nodak3 said.

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Nodak3, I am with you. If you like your view you need to own it!

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If they can do it,
you know you can!

anyone here have property for sale within half a mile? i want to start a hippie training camp complete with 16 hour per day continuous drum circle. hehehe

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"All that is gold does not glitter..."

I work for a business that's built in someone neighborhood to feed my three kids.

Stoping or shutting down business will cause you no worries China will make it.

No freaking kidding! You forget every man has a right to do with his property as he chooses. Don't like it? move.

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Ehh, whatever.

I do understand you are looking for soe middle ground here, and I can appreciate your comments. You have a good view.

But we all have to deal with the good, the average, & the not good at all. Somehow make our little bit of life work along with everyone else.

Getting that blend to work right can be very difficult at times.

As others mention, it is just sad how some wish to railroad this person, only because he tried to better his operation and/or work within his property.

That kinda fires up the radar, what is it people really want?

We keep hearing here that people should be free to build their own house, have their own livestock with no NAIS, no controls or restrictions......

Then this felow should be sued because he cut down his trees on his property, & a fellow building a livestock barn should be sued, and people building a row of houses should be sued/stopped.

There is no consistency among us.

I think if we lok at ourselves, we all are thinking about me me me me, and want to be free to do as we please, but at the same time we want to totally control what anyone else does.

In my other reply to you, I wasn't arguing with you, so much as thinking we need to deal with reality, not with what we all would like to have. We rarely get what we would like to have handed to us.

--->Paul

What many people are not really reading. This is rural Ms. Several years ago a new auto plant decided to come to Ms. It bought land where the plant was to be built. Additional suppliers wanted to build near the plant. Some people who originally owned the land did not want to sell. They had no other option. The plant was built and they were moved off their land.
Tha auto manufacture installed what people call a thunder gun. Its purpose is to prevent hail damage to new cars parked in their lot. It is a large sonic boom sounded when there is a threat of hail. This bothered those living close to the plant as it went off every few minutes during stormy weather, day and night. You can send donations for the lawyers fund. They cannot stop it and have tried all options in court.
People living in other states can give suggestions but remember this is rural Ms. The laws in other states do not apply. Your choice is to move or make your property into something you like. It isn't the problem of another property owner to do your work. Sad but true.

Wow! nice job! Couldn't of said it better. We live in one of the fastest growing, formerly rural areas in the country. Our population has gone up at least five percent annually for the last twenty years. During all this mass migration of New Yorkers to our area, two townships were not going to let anybody tell them what to do, the didn't need zoning. Consequently, one had a long and brutal fight to drive a chemical company out of a farm where they were going to set up a chemical blending and repackaging operation. The other has battled everything from an automobile racetrack that is now in the process of being built, to developers with plans to build hundreds of condos. A lot of local governments that don't think they need zoning aren't smart enough to realize that big businesses prey on places like this. They look for the weakest link in their search for places to engage in undesirable businesses like CAFO hog farms and garbage dumps. I understand the though that "It's my land and I'll do what I want" but in many cases there is very steep price to pay for that attitude.

Apples and oranges..

THIS post concerns one neighbor who has asked how to legally require another to sort of "replace the view" that he took away ..

I despise zoning..hate the very idea of it with every fiber of my being. I don't care if MY neighbor wants to have a gazillion junk cars piled up to the moon on HIS property, or run a dirt track racing bike operation, or an elephant farm, or a bunch of "drumming" hippies..I'd rather have THOSE folks as neighbors any day than one family who think they have some sort of "right" to tell me that my grass can only be 3 inches high, my goats "offend" them, roosters ought not to crow, cows ought not to moo after dusk, and the sound of me target practicing gives them the vapors.

I've got sense enough to know how to build fences, grow tall trees, hedges, and yes, IGNORE what my neighbors do..because I sure expect them to mind their own business when it comes to what I'm doing on MY property.
God save me from righteous busy-bodies, and zoning. "Property values?" I don't give a hoot about "property values" if I have to trade off my personal freedoms in order to elevate the "value" of property. Freedom doesn't have a price tag.

If a person want certain restrictions placed on the area they live it is a lot easier to move into an area that already has those restrictions. Saves a lot of time , money, and hard feelings with neighbors. If you choose to move into an area because there is not restrictions you do not have the right then to put restrictions on everyone else. It could be they moved into the same area for tha same reason as you did.